zagaberoo

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It uncovered eight WHO panelists involved with assessing safe levels of aspartame consumption who are beverage industry consultants who currently or previously worked with the alleged Coke front group, International Life Sciences Institute (Ilsi)....

zagaberoo,

How do you mean?

I’ve heard of things like the sensation of sweetness being decoupled from satiation leading to a greater urge for sweetness in compensation, but at least personally that’s not happening to me lol.

zagaberoo,

Friends are a lot more than an audience to prove things to, though.

zagaberoo,

One delay is for everyone, the other is for those with slow connections.

I can totally understand how people would be mad that they can’t take part while their friends and communities have already started digging in.

zagaberoo,

How is a lack of magnitude order objectively wrong? A date format is ultimately a language feature, and the US format successfully transmits the needed info just fine within its natural context.

It may seem objective from your perspective, but language is used in many more contexts than those you are familiar with.

zagaberoo,

Only the combination of formats results in ambiguity. Neither format is ambiguous on its own.

Standardization is good, and if someone were to change it should probably be the US given the apparent worldwide consensus otherwise. That doesn’t make either format good or bad on its own.

What I take issue with is people acting like the US format is some kind of bizarro nonsense when it in fact makes perfect sense in terms of matching spoken dates. That is hardly a weird basis for a format.

Each has its tradeoffs, and which set of tradeoffs is better is a subjective matter. I agree that d/m/y makes the most sense for an international standard (if not y/m/d), but to claim that the US format itself is somehow objectively bad is silly.

zagaberoo,

That’s how formats work, I hate to break it to you. The ambiguity sucks, but the format itself makes perfect sense given the way americans say dates.

zagaberoo,

You haven’t explained what is objectively wrong other than you don’t like it. My argument is more than just being used to it, closely matching verbal convention is useful.

Also, it’s funny that you think I’m arguing either is objectively better than the other.

zagaberoo,

It’s not unclear to americans. “Objectively” is hilarious here. If it’s in the format people expect, then it’s perfectly fine in context. Sorry that US traditions don’t suit your fancy.

It’s definitely confusing in an international context, but well-estsblished conventions don’t change easily.

zagaberoo,

Do people outside of the US not say dates like “June first” etc? M/D/Y matches that. It’s really not weird at all, even if the international ambiguity is awful.

zagaberoo,

I wonder whether they really are over. I have to imagine there will be future surges once negative sentiment fades and just the right novelty comes along.

zagaberoo,

It’s more complicated to make money producing FOSS, capitalism or not. Lots of reasonable developers would still choose closed source even without capitalism.

zagaberoo,

When I did a homestay in Japan, my host dad was shocked my family didn’t have one. I do now though!

zagaberoo,

Just following in the footsteps of the Silk Road’s creator on Stack Overflow. The FBI mentioned the post specifically.

Opinion: Distributions that only change non-system pre-installed software or desktop environment should instead be packages or scripts

The majority of Linux distributions out there seem to be over-engineering their method of distribution. They are not giving us a new distribution of Linux. They are giving us an existing distribution of Linux, but with a different distribution of non-system software (like a different desktop environment or configuration of it)...

zagaberoo,

I think we’re mostly on the same page, but verbiage like “must be distributed as packages instead” is pretty hard to interpret any other way than saying DE-distros shouldn’t exist.

zagaberoo,

I don’t think they’d be so popular if they weren’t useful.

Why should the user be required to reinstall their whole OS? I don’t think they are: it seems relatively straightforward to change DEs on Ubuntu at least.

On the other hand, if someone knows they want Ubuntu with KDE, why should they have to go through a regular Ubuntu install just to do the post configuration themselves? Plus, maintainers of these offshoot distros can potentially more deeply remove dependency on the default DE.

I think focusing on differences in system software is less illustrative than looking at the out-of-the-box user experience and capabilities. A changed DE is a pretty huge practical difference.

This line of thought does really underscore how nebulous the definition of an operating system really is. Pour one out for GNU being totally subsumed culturally by a Kernel that everyone sees as an OS.

zagaberoo,

Kubuntu

zagaberoo,

It doesn’t warrant it to your taste, but people like it. I don’t get your point beyond saying that people shouldn’t prefer it because you don’t.

So they’re “very useful”, but shouldn’t exist?

zagaberoo,

But if you start with Kubuntu then it’s not exactly hopping, it’s just more convenient.

If people wanted to do it by package installation, they would!

In the end it’s just more user choice, which is good.

zagaberoo,

I’m with you that it would be awesome to have more options to explore big changes like that.

I just don’t see maintainers putting the effort into it. I don’t think these DE-only distros are going anywhere anytime soon, and I’m glad they’re filling a gap for the users that want it.

zagaberoo,

Binary speed is really the least reason to use Gentoo.

There are a lot of thorny issues in package distribution that source builds completely sidestep.

Install-it-yourself plus source updates are a lot to ask, but if you can get the hang of it the benefits are pretty sweet.

zagaberoo,

This is a highly dorky thread, really 😁

zagaberoo,

It sounds like you agree, though.

Cucumber water is not what you’d expect when asking for water, yet OP excludes it as being invalid for being equivalent to water. So where is the line?

Tea is absolutely my non-troll answer, but how different is that really from cucumber water in this context?

zagaberoo,

Birch sap is a great idea, but as a sole drink I think the manganese poisoning might get to you before the sweetness.

zagaberoo,

Have you tried straight everclear? Having only tried a shot once, I’d put this plan closer to torture than fun lol.

zagaberoo,

I see it more as pride in the community and administrators. Plenty of distros are complete passion projects and aren’t undeserving of pride.

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