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@zeri@chaos.social

poetry / eater of bugs / it-security (cryptography) / anything sci-fi / outdoor sport (running) selfies / dry humor (I am soooo sorry) / cryptic book quotes

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santiago, (edited ) to history
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Alternative history. If the US had just given up at this point of war, all of (united) Korea would probably be in the same stage as Vietnam today. That is: just fine.

But they went on for 3 years. Killing 2-3 million Koreans to save them from communism.

Then they killed 1-3 million Vietnamese to try to save them from and lost.

Full timeline:
https://youtu.be/lJx6M7SqkvI?si=1y-t-8WjdZ8Ln9BO

zeri,
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@santiago "The UN" not just the USA would have to give up in Pusan... and what makes you so certain that the forcefully united Korea in your alternate history would not have turned out like the DPRK (a totalitarian shit hole) today?

And you can have the same though experiment with the PRC not entering the war when the situation was reversed but you don't admonish them for some reason.

zeri,
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@santiago was what worth the death of 15% of the population? I'm against cohersive force in general but the rest of the people in the south got to live to an old age and die without being starving slaves to the supreme leader ... maybe you should ask them?

To me your question comes down to how much relative freedom people get to enjoy and what sacrifices are ok for that. You can make the same argument with Ukraine, or Burma or the parts of Syria/Irak that were part of ISIS.

zeri,
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@santiago so you say you would not choose to live there? Do I get that right? What if the alternative was a 15% chance of death?

Because you know I would prefer a 15 % chance of death in a muddy trench over being forced to live in the USA let alone the DPRK.

zeri,
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@santiago So while we are at labeling communist governments "evil" ... in 1979 China invaded Vietnam ... who were the evil communists then? And who were the good communists? Both, neither? Was it somehow the USAs fault? The last part is only half a joke; people keep telling me how the war in Ukraine is not on Russia.

zeri,
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@santiago how many of the 3 million dead in the Korean war do you attribute to the chinese intervention? I mean they basically faught the UN troops back to Pusan before being faught back to the 38th parallel in turn ... leading to another 2 sackings of Seoul. For that matter, was the aim of forcefully reuniting Korea worth 3 Million deaths? The Sovjet invasion of Afghanistan also had like 2 Million dead civilians. The US clearly has no monopoly on causing mega deaths for their political goals.

zeri,
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@santiago Well there's also the thing where Brazil isn't threatened with nuclear annihilation on a weekly basis. I bet your opinion would be different if you lived in say Poland or Estonia, Finland even. Because then you'd still be rightfully pissed at the USA but would definitely prefer them to all the alternatives on offer for your society.

zeri,
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@santiago I was not claiming Russia was invading its neighbors because of communism; bc that would be stupid. My argument is that the US with all its hypocrisy and self serving double standards does still enable Europe to be effectively free from this neighbor that is a really really shitty neighbor regardless of whether it is communist or capitalist at any given time. Ask people in Eastern Europe about how grand being occupied for 50 years was for their respective countries compared to today.

zeri,
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@santiago I really do believe you are reading too much into this economic system / ideology thing. People will always find a reason to take other peoples stuff by force. Capitalism and Communism aren't a "good" vs. "evil" thing and most wars are simply "I want your stuff"-wars. The economic system has less impact on this stuff than office term limits and an independent judiciary. If you can't setup reliable transfer of power the ideology of your society is about as important as its religion.

zeri,
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@santiago capitalism didn't invent greedy people ... greedy people invented capitalism. it also didn't invent murderous psychopaths that want to tell everybody what to do. I just dont see why you are so certain that a bunch of exclusively communist countries would stop doing this empire building meme and would not be exploiting the shit out of each other. Big communist countries would totally threaten small communist countries and take their stuff.

zeri,
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@santiago Russian imperialism didn't vanish in any year. The French stopped, the Germans stopped, the Brits stopped, the Spanish, the Dutch, the Portoguese, the Russians keep on going. And I for one wouldn't want to lay that on feet of communism except for stating that communism didn't change anything about this, not over night and not over half a century. And changing to stone age capitalism didn't improve things either. Russia is simply a shitty neighbor to have.

dexiheart, to random
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shout out to "the new yorker" for asking the right questions :drake_like:

zeri,
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@dexiheart well you can always compost them and grow healthy food with the results.

maralorn, to random German
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Holymoly, mein Zug ist gerade pünktlich abgefahren, obwohl überall 10 Minuten Verspätung steht. Hoffe das hat niemanden reingerissen.

zeri,
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@maralorn time traveling trains from the FUTURE... ab 2070 (wahrscheinlich nach dem Krieg) kommt ja der Deutschlandtakt.

isotopp, to random German
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zeri,
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@isotopp unter uns mir würde es reichen wenn sie den Laden dicht machen, oder beim Scheißen vom Blitz getroffen werden. Oder einfach nach Russland umziehen.

nblr, to random German
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Heute wieder in sonem Restaurant gewesen, wo sich am Ende rausstellte “Kein Bargeld, nur Karte, steht doch an der Türe!1” und wenig später “nee AMEX nehmen wir nicht”. Wasn Kindergarten. Wie kann man bitte so bräsig sein? Sind sind so Leute einfach nur unterreflektiert oder bewusst hässig? Junge Junge…

zeri,
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@nblr ist "kein Bargeld" überhaupt legal? Dachte jeder muss bargeld als bezahlung akzeptieren.

mcfly, to random German
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a good boi that obviously does not trust cops.

Be more like commander.

h/t @Emerson

zeri,
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@mcfly @Emerson this is not about cops but about the candidate for Trump's vice president bragging in her memoirs that she shot her dog for being untrainable, also killing a goat for being "mean"... regardless 1312 is always a good take.

And yes the race is still tight in spite of one side in this popularity contest literally saying "We murder puppies" ... Jesuslanders right?

maralorn, (edited ) to random
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Doing a large refactor in a code base you didn’t write feels like being trapped in a maze of Chesterton‘s fences.

zeri,
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@maralorn that was that rule about only blowing up planets after checking with the people that created the planets in the first place and if they are really surplus to requirements right?

nblr, (edited ) to random
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Just an irregular reminder... You are not a news service. As tempting and easy as it may be to (re)post current affairs stuff… chances are, you're not adding significant insight and most likely it's not the reason why people chose to follow you. Rest assured that most if not all people that read your posts also have easy access to a variety of news sources to pull information at their discretion.

zeri,
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@nblr and yet when I toot I am getting something off my chest, language structures thinking and all that ... social media is not a news service it's a bar where you talk about the stuff that matters to you and the barkeep only answers rhetorical questions.

inquiline, to random
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Pssst, this is the way:

“We have disrupted the entire port and their ability to function by delaying all of the trucks!”

https://inthesetimes.com/article/ports-protests-tacoma-oakland-orlando-israel-gaza

zeri,
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@inquiline I for one think the USA could do with a little taste of general strike ...

polenz_r, to random German
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„Die versucht verbotenerweise,sich selbst militärisch immun zu machen,indem sie die zivile Immunität ausnutzt und militärische Ziele inmitten oder unterhalb ziviler Ziele platziert.Für Angreifer wird es damit schwer bis unmöglich,zu unterscheiden.“

https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000193738/wie-die-hamas-gegen-das-v246lkerrecht-verst246223t

zeri,
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@polenz_r das ist etwa so sinnvoll wie "BESCHWER DICH BEI DER HAMAS!" wenn man auf die Genfer Konvention im Zusammenhang mit Angriffen auf Krankenhäuser, Ambulanzen oder Flüchtlingslager hinweißt. Als ob die nen Beschwerdebriefkasten hätten oder ne Hotline.

Die Hamas ist eine Terrororganisation.

Die IDF ist keine Terrororganisation.

Und dann gelten halt höhere Ansprüche sry.

zeri,
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@wonka @polenz_r für mich klingt das einfach nur danach dass man sich mal wieder schönreden will was die IDF im Gazastreifen anrichtet "natürlich können die sich nicht an die Genfer Konvention halten, weil Hamas sie zwingt dagegen zu verstoßen" ... Wenn die USA im Kampf gegen ISIS einen Kindergarten plattbomben kommt auch keiner und und erzählt uns wochenlang nur darüber dass ISIS gegen das Völkerrecht verstößt.

zeri,
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@wonka @polenz_r niemals also Leichen paradieren. Aber es geht mir gar nicht darum was die IDF mit der Hamas macht von mir aus können die jeden von denen umbringen und weiter Videos davon machen wie Soldaten auf Leichen urinieren. Es geht mir tatsächlich nur darum dass hier mal wieder total war in einer Stadt gespielt wird und die Leute die die Bomben werfen und damit tausende Zivilisten töten mal wieder über jeden Zweifel erhaben sind. Eine Stadt plattbomben ist kein fucking Automatismus.

zeri,
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@wonka @polenz_r doch das kann man. Man kann beschließen dass man einfach keine Universitäten, Krankenhäuser und Flüchtlingslager bombardiert. Dann überleben ein paar Hamas Kämpfer halt n paar Tage länger. Dass das nicht getan wird, dass die "menschlichen Schutzschilde" komplett ignoriert werden, ist eine Entscheidung, und sie ist falsch!

zeri,
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@wonka @polenz_r Kp sag dus mir. Wieviele Zivilisten hat die Hamas in Israel seit den Masakern am 7.10 ermordet? Da stehen halt n duzend Brigarden mechanisierte Infantrie im Weg. Und die Raketen der Hamas treffen erstaunlich selten irgendwas.

28 Menschen haben die mit ihren 20000 Raketen zwischen 2001 und 2014 ermordet. Und den Iron Dome gibt es seit 2011.

SwiftOnSecurity, to random
zeri,
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@SwiftOnSecurity pour que no los dos?

honze_net, to random

AI is short for "ain't intelligent".

zeri,
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@honze_net Abscence of Intelligence

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