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@Anon2971@kbin.social

Former Redditor looking for something better.

I found this amazing podcast called Blockbuster. It's a radio drama recreating how Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and James Cameron started their careers. (www.getblockbuster.com)

I thought I'd share this as I listened to it a while ago and kinda forgot about it. Rewatching Indiana Jones made me want to learn more about John Williams again and this podcast has some excellent tidbits about him in there. I've listened to a lot of podcasts but the cinematic polish in this one in particular is pretty damn...

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It's been quite a relief seeing justice coming to three pieces of shit at the same time I never thought I'd see justice to

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BiShock - I'm Christian and unfortunately cannot elaborate further on this sinful content

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Is anyone else really entertained at this point by watching this pompus asshat's arrogance single-handledly dismantling the pretty solid reputation Reddit has as a social media platform? It's like I blink and he thinks "hmm, how can I say something worse to show everyone how strong and powerful I am?"

I mean if Reddit's going to go down, may as well go down in the most spectacular self-emulation possible. Solid alternatives are already formed and off to the races. Go off my guy.

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I think we should actively keep track of Reddit restoring user's content without people's permission. Screenshots, timestamps, everything. Monitor it all.

Maybe if Reddit go ahead with their API change whilst treating their users like such disposable crap, we could reach out to the EU to inform them of Reddit's GDPR breaches. Maybe that'd lead to their new revenue from API charges disappearing into hefty EU fines.

Update: Maybe there's going to be some loophole about actually having to use the data deletion request via Reddit's UI for there to be an actually GDPR breach though thinking about it. Going to ask around some Law friends for advise

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Yes, it is. So charge a reasonable API price and this whole argument is over.

But that won't happen. This is about monetizing Reddit's content ASAP before Spez resigns ASAP with a nice big, bonus for pushing through those beautiful API changes oh so smoothly.

The more Spez speaks, the less sad I am about Reddit dying. Platforms come and go. There's loads of Internet corners to discuss my hobbies. I don't want to stay on a sinking ship with a hole shot out by the captain because he has ship insurance, actively throwing people off board as him and his crew climb up the still buoyant part whilst insisting THIS WILL BLOW OVER. I'm not going down with the Titanic of community boards as it sinks. It'll die in infamy and I don't feel like drowning alongside it.

However, I will now thoroughly enjoy watching Spez naively, single-handedly dismantle Reddit's legacy for short term gain whilst thinking he's being a super duper smart businessman we couldn't possibly understand. Or possibly being a forced fallguy for share holder decisions which he has a choice in avoiding by quitting.

I've never in all my years of Internet browsing seen someone running an Internet-based company so blatantly indifferent to the customers they serve. There's no Reddit revenue without Redditors.

I wish him luck on his inevitably piss-poor IPO when Reddit offers little content of value and more people get more angry at him as more ridiculous reasoning flies out of his mouth. Reddit's gonna look like MSN News by the end of this mess.

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That's ok dude. That's the nature of coding. We all copy and paste and take ideas from other places. Attributing is a low priority for minor personal projects and now suddenly your personal project is a bit bigger.

All good. No harm done. I look forward to seeing how this platform grows even more.

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This is a really good explanation for how defederation works.

I understand your point that Beehaw defederating from two subs for moderation and user management seems like an extreme reaction. But it's one I kind of expected from them given Beehaw's philosophies as as an instance.

Their detailed posts about what Beehaw is always made it very clear to me they think carefully about how they run their space and the users they want to grant access to. They really prioritise making their instance a safe space for well-meaning discussion through their vetted registrations.

I'm not an admin. I'm not an experienced Lemmy user. I'm not someone who has had experience moderating and being an admin on several communities before. They have and I've also seen activity on the Lemmy repo from them showing they have dev experience too.

As you pointed out, the entire site of 12k users is currently managed by 4 people who seem to have quite a lot of experience managing communities. That's a big workload. I've been using both Beehaw and Kbin since Reddit's awful API changes to see how both places grow and so far I've found Beehaw to be a very enjoyable experience with a pretty high engagement rate. I usually get hella upvotes and replies to anything I say. It does feel like a pretty active, close-knit place of well-meaning people even at this early stage. I think they're running Beehaw pretty well so far. Kbin is very solid too, but Beehaw I've found tends to have a deeper level of engagement and longer, more in-depth post styles that I prefer.

I know any instances with open registration could hop in and contribute to Beehaw, so this issue they have of not being able to vet and control users isn't unique to those two instances. But given so far the place to me as a user still feels the same as when I joined a few days ago more or less, I'm going to take them at their word that they're getting an influx of activity that isn't a particularly good fit for Beehaw for now. There's a lot of instances that could defederate from. 2 is not a huge number so far. Plus they did explicitly say at the end this is not a permanent decision, they may very well change their minds later on.

So personally, I respect and understand Beehaw's decision at this moment. Lets give things time and see how things develop. It's definitely a temporary, broad axe to cutting an apple type solution to their troll problem - which may very well continue as Lemmy gets more popularity as a platform overall - but I think they want to be specific about who they pull into their moderation team to ensure the vibe of Beehaw is maintained. Lets give it some time to see what happens.

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Great explanation! Really well written and clearly explained. However...

Forgive my bluntness, but people not into tech tend to be lazy and stupid about everything lol. I feel like they'd take one glance at that, think TOO MUCH TEXT, not read it properly and still complain about the Fediverse being confusing.

Any kind of attempt at explaining the Fediverse seems to really confuse people, so IMO the best solution is to not even bring it up. Kinda dismiss it as no biggie, then sneak in a quick explanation at the end. Here's my go:

"If the word 'Fediverse' confuses or scares you, ignore it. Just join any Lemmy instance you like the look of. They all work more or less like Reddit. If you can't find a community/subreddit you want on one, make it yourself.

Or, alternatively, use this to see if one exists already. If it does, you can copy the community Lemmy address (it appears on the right in blue under the 'create a post' button in a form like '!linux'), search for it on your site's search, then subscribe like you would any other subreddit.

That cross-site subscribing is what the Fediverse is about - it's a bunch of small, independent Reddit-ish clones cross-talking. But since they're small, they're struggling and slightly breaking with Reddit refugees at the moment. I'd recommend local communities only for now. Join the commuities you find via Feddit in maybe a few weeks or so once everything's calmed down."

I think we should (politely) message major hobby subreddits that went public to go private again. It's important to continue the protest.

It’s disappointing to see some of the larger subreddits going public with a ‘what’s the point?’ tone. Most are staying private, but some aren’t. As if Reddit doesn’t exist solely because of its user generated content. If enough subs permanently shut down, they’ll be forced to reconsider their API position. Social...

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FYI - don't message /r/food. I had a brief browse and saw absolutely no posts whatsoever about the blackout. Very much business as usual as if nothing happened. So I messaged them, their response was "Thank you for your unsolicited message shitting on our protest." and banned me lol. So leave them to it. I was pretty careful to word my message maturely (the first paragraph said 'I hope I’m not coming off as unreasonable, but I do think it’s vitally important for this protest to continue for it to have any real impact.'), but I guess some just really can't live without their Reddit addiction.

How do you feel about people upvoting their own posts?

I always thought it was a pretty smart idea on Reddit's side to have the posts and comments be automatically upvoted by their author, saving them the tough choice between playing fair or boosting their initial reach a little; and if you had particularly low self-esteem, this enabled you to reduce your own points by not one, but...

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I've made a poll so we can decide. We could then add the most popular suggestion to the Codeberg repo. I'm personally leaning towards no self upvoting.

Update: Now we've had hella votes I've added a feature request to the repo.

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I'm here to stay. Even if Reddit reverse their API decision, they've made it abundantly clear their first priority is pleasing their shareholders. I don't want to use a platform that so blatantly ignores the wills of the community that caused it's popularity in the first place. It's a shame they've decided to die on the hill of temporarily pumping their potential IPO value via the API at the cost of what made Reddit special in the first place. They've already disintegrated the trust of a lot of hardcore Reddit users like myself overnight. It'll never be the same now they've shown how they really value their users.

At the same time, I'm really excited to see how the various alternative platforms develop. Spending time away from Reddit has made me realise its sheer size can be quite overwhelming and there were a lot of subreddits I followed that were more doom scrolling wastes of time. Going to these other, smaller platforms is taking me back to earlier Internet days in a good way where it feels like you're part of an engaged community rather than a nameless voice among hundreds of thousands. I've been finding the quality of discussion here refreshingly high and respectful so far.

It's honestly exciting being at the start of what feels like a new social media wave. I can't remember the last time a major social media platform went the way of the dodo and people had to start migrating to replacements. I'm finding it really enjoyable being on ground zero. Whatever platform ends up being the most popular, it's a pleasure to be talking with you all whilst we figure it out. :)

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Inevitable. He didn't write a lot, but you know someone's writing is special when most of their output is commonly talked about in all-time greatest American literature discussions. Rest in Power.

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I guess this is the new Reddit! Time to kick our feet up.

I expected as much. 2 days is a pitiful protest length. I will not be using Reddit any longer whilst keeping an eye on updates from here and other news sites. I'm hoping this memo encourages all subreddits to protest idnefinitely until this assclown of a CEO is willing to negotiate lower API prices. And if he's not, onto greener pastures. And watching /r/wallstreetbets figure out a way to destroy their IPO when it eventually launches.

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I'm absolutely loving how thoroughly The Verge is covering this story. No other tech news site seems to be updating this situation so frequently and with such a supportive tone.

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I got on Beehaw no problem... I guess read their philosophy a bit carefully and think about what you actually want to contribute there?

I've only made a few comments so far, but whenever I have, I've gotten a helluva lot of upvotes and often insightful, engaging, thoughtful replies. It seems to be a really good place for positive, in-depth discussion. Beehaw comments tend to be paragraphs, here's its more a few sentences a la Reddit.

I think Kbin's got a solid foundation feature-wise, but so far the discussion depth on Beehaw feels deeper. At the same time kbin feels a bit more alive whereas Beehaw's pace feels a bit more gentle.

Let's see how things play out over the next month.

My biggest problem with kbin

The biggest problem with kbin is honestly quite simple, but I don't people is talking about is the fact that finding the magazines that I'm subscribed to is in Settings > Subscribed, on Reddit, it's literally in the top bar, I don't get why it's buried in settings. Another thing is why is my home page full of posts from...

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Yeah same here. This feels like a somewhat key usability feature. I'll see if there's a way I can pass this feature suggestion onto the developer.

Update: Probably best to add feature requests to the kbin repo.

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Nail on the head there re subjectivity.

I do understand the meaning of scab in the context of protesting, but it still comes off as a pretty antagonistic term in tone to me. If I was walking around IRL, walked past a protest I didn't know much about and got called that or any name, personally I would immediately feel uncomfortable. I would be uneasy engaging with someone who sees me as a threat or the enemy. Labelling people scabs (also defined as an unsightly skin growth) implies that and isn't the right starting point for any debate.

Plus in this particular case, we're protesting new policies we disagree with on a website. Are non-protestors stealing our precious jobs as... Unpaid Redditors? Are they personally responsible for the API problems?

Tone is important. Educate and engage first if we want to actually win over people rather than reflexively call them scabs.

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Calling people names for not joining a protest is polite?

Please don't start behaving like 4channers doing a raid. We're better than that. Reddit are in the wrong, but DMing subreddit mods "join our protest" and calling them names before they can reply is definitely harassment-like behaviour. Don't do that. It doesn't help the cause, it just makes us look petty and immature.

It's obvious certain major subeddits are being ran by Reddit staff or staff associates, so of course they're going to avoid a protest critical of their CEO out of fear and self-preservation. There is no point trying to convince the already decided.

If you want to convince anyone, message the smaller subs that seem like they won't be easily influenced by Reddit administrators. Give them detailed information. Whenever it comes to any kind of protest, communicating your issues respectfully is important or the other side won't listen to your points. This protest will lose respect quickly if we start behaving like angry trolls.

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