AnotherAttorney

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Brazil Supreme Court justice orders investigation of Elon Musk over fake news and obstruction (apnews.com)

A crusading Brazilian Supreme Court justice included Elon Musk as a target in an ongoing investigation over the dissemination of fake news and opened a separate investigation late Sunday into the executive for alleged obstruction....

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because Elon agrees with the far right extremism being censored here

What exactly was being censored in Brazil that he chose not to comply with.

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I’d love to see any of the internet goblins frothing at the mouth over this to actually point out any objectively untrue material that Musk tweeted regarding the Brazilian Supreme Court lol.

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The transgender sanctuary city policy will restrict staff from using time or money on efforts from outside states' legal action against people seeking gender-affirming care.

Has this even happened? Sounds like it would be pretty quickly ruled unconstitutional under the commerce clause.

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Somehow his legal cases are going through congress, which is reserved for investigating crimes of elected officials.

It’s almost like his cases are being investigated in relation to another elected official or something — weird…

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Being an attorney is remarkably different than it used to be. Most hearings are via Zoom now, and there is almost no reason to be in the office unless you’re doing trial prep with a team.

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Lmfao, the audacity to publish this as Biden’s DoJ is actively seeking to jail Trump.

Reminder: Trump’s Last Year in Office Was a National Nightmare (www.nytimes.com)

One of the amazing political achievements of Republicans in this election cycle has been their ability, at least so far, to send Donald Trump’s last year in office down the memory hole. Voters are supposed to remember the good economy of January 2020, with its combination of low unemployment and low inflation, while forgetting...

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Pointing out a bunch of things and blaming Biden is not providing citations.

When negative things happen under your presidency, it’s your responsibility to control them. Also, lmfao at thinking student loan forgiveness, the DGB, and OSHA mandate, three things explicitly created by his administration, are somehow not attributable to Biden.

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Those are CDC numbers Norby dear, feel free to take a look at their website and you’ll see the same.

Don’t you have some line from Sartre to be quoting me though?

New York prosecutors in Trump's hush money trial say former president continues to violate gag order (apnews.com)

Prosecutors said Thursday that Donald Trump again violated a gag order in his hush money trial, as the criminal case resumed on the same day that the U.S. Supreme Court weighed whether he should be immune from prosecution for actions taken during his time as president....

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Contempt rulings are interlocutory and wouldn’t delay the progression of the trial itself. They could not be appealed until a final judgment in the trial.

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Because if you think the best way to protest something in America is by burning yourself alive and putting your family through torment and depression for the rest of their lives, you need a therapist and not a bottle of gasoline.

Calling this sort of thing heroic just encourages more of it.

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Yeah, that’s what happens when you fear-monger and lie about things related to a global pandemic.

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Pretty sure he’s giving them a ton of weapons and money to do that though.

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No evidence to this effect ever shows up post-destruction, but useful idiots parrot the talking points all the same.

Lmfao, you mean like the video of Hamas taking hostages into a hospital?

The point is to destroy the infrastructure necessary to live in the area so that people are forced to move out.

Universities aren’t necessary to live in any given area. Try again.

Again, very clearly not a genocide by the definition you provided. Was 9/11 an act of genocide?

Yes. Lmfao read the definition of genocide before spewing nonsense rhetoricals.

As evidenced by the fact you can't provide any reason they did it.

I could care less why they did for purposes of this discussion. Blowing up an empty university building cannot be genocide by definition.

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with the understanding the their governance would be fairly different than it ended up going

Hamas has been calling for the death of Israel since it was elected. The majority of Gaza’s occupants continue to support Hamas.

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systematic demolition of hospitals, universities and other critical infrastructure

Oh, you mean the hospitals that were occupied by Hamas? Hate to break it to you bro, but you lose your international protection as a hospital once you also become a military barracks lol.

let's start with the controlled demolition of Israa University

Oh, the empty university? Yeah, no death there. People also exist without universities. Looks like it’s not meeting the definition of genocide. Try again.

are you going to take the easy way out and pretend that "oh well the censured him so it must not be the real aim"

Nope. It’s just not genocide, lol.

the death toll, while a tragedy, doesn't meet the bar necessary

Mhm. The intent to destroy Israel does.

you think killing one person in a hate crime is a genocide because it's technically "a part"?

Nope, but killing a thousand people expressly for the stated aim of eliminating that people’s country is.

The fact that you could only come up with the demolition of an empty university as an example of IDF genocide is pretty telling lmfao.

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Hamas had proposed a three-phase deal, each lasting 45 days, that would also see the gradual release of hostages held in the enclave in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israel – including those serving life sentences

Lmao, that’s what you mean? Yeah, let’s withdraw all of our military forces already working to rescue the hostages immediately, and instead trust a literal terror cell (which had already ran across the border and executed thousands of unarmed civilians) to kindly release them after 5 months. Oh, and by the way we’re going to send them their convicted murderers and terrorists too lol.

remind me where the death toll stands for either side, please

Remind me which side went across the other side’s border for the exclusive purpose of point-blank executing thousands of women and children, please

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it's what the idf did after crossing the border that makes it a genocide

Feel free to link an objective, unbiased source showing that the IDF has engaged in the killing of members of a national, ethnical, racial or religious group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; or forcibly transferring children of the group to another group — and, that the respective act was committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, the group.

That is, after all, the definition of genocide.

running across the border of a country to slaughter thousands of women and children on account of their nationality does

it literally does not

See above. By definition, it literally does lol.

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you seem to be missing the whole "missing a leg" part

Damn — maybe stop blowing the legs off your foreign national hostages (or, better yet, stop taking hostages altogether).

maybe try reading the stuff I wrote about how it's not just the univeristy, yeah?

Oh you’re finally abandoning your university argument? I’m glad you could finally see the lack of logic. If you want to provide an objective, unbiased source for something else, go ahead. You haven’t.

your repeated failure to use your own specific definition

See a few threads above. It’s cited right there.

the bit about how the article is rendered null and void by a later ruling which your other source mentions?

You heard it here first folks, the international definition of genocide set out in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide is now null and void. Genius argument.

the act itself wasn't intended to destroy, in whole or in part, israel

Slaughtering thousands of women and children on account of their nationality isn’t intended to partly destroy that nationality? Weird argument my guy.

the source that disagrees with you is the wikipedia article you pulled the un definition

Oh geez, you think that’s from Wikipedia? No wonder you’re so lost lol.

the source that's rendered irrelevant is "the jstor article that was made irrelevant by a later ruling clarifying what they'd misinterpreted" i even clarified for you and you still tripped over your shoelaces 😞

Given how you thought the literal definition of genocide was from Wikipedia, it looks like you’re, ironically, the one that has been using some incorrect definition of genocide. I mean, feel free to cite something that supports what you’re talking about — I’d love to see what you think trumps the international Office on Genocide Prevention, lmfao. I wouldn’t be surprised in the Hamas internet system is being unreliable for you lol.

your entire position was built on a misunderstanding of the word

Guy thought the definition of genocide was from Wikipedia.

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Releasing the hostages and not mass murdering Israeli women and children might be a good start.

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This isn’t about those stupid fucking terrorists

I mean, the only reason Israel is in Gaza is because those terrorists were elected by Gaza and then ran into Israel to murder thousands of unarmed men, women, and children — so, I’d say it’s definitely about those terrorists lol.

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less than 10 people taken

Again, hate to break it to you bro, but when you start taking hostages into a hospital — it doesn’t really matter how many you take. You lose your international protection.

Neither are primary schools, but people aren't going to live somewhere without one.

The vast majority of American towns exist without collegiate education in them. Try again.

I show you a clear and blatant destruction of infrastructure for no valid reason, and the best you can muster is "it's not that important"?

Because genocide has a specific definition that the destruction of an empty university building cannot meet, regardless of the reason for its destruction.

even when you've literally cited a definition that pretty clearly separates them?

“it allows large-scale acts of terrorism to be viewed in their proper light—as crimes against humanity or as genocide—when the requisite elements are present. Indeed, all of the elements for these crimes are satisfied in the September 11 attacks.”

You really don’t read, do you? Yes. They are separate things, and terrorism can be genocide when the requisite elements are satisfied.

2 years before future rulings clarified "in whole or in part"

Neat. Hamas has expressly stated that they want to eliminate the whole of Israel. There’s your intent for genocide.

asking you a question that you understood and that i expected you to answer isn't a "nonsense rhetorical"

You pretty clearly already had your answer in mind and did not want the actual information — as demonstrated by your headstrong rejection of the literal definition of genocide, lol — which is the definition of a rhetorical question.

You’re really not too good at understanding the meaning of words, are you? Lmfao.

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2 hostages in building 5 weeks before raid

Yeah, you seem to be missing the whole “being taken hostage in a hospital” part. You lose your international protection. Sorry bro, I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe don’t take hostages — weird concept, I know.

the point is that literally the only scenario in which it makes sense for the idf to blow up that university is if they're attempting to destroy infrastructure. i don't know how you're not seeing that?

Because it doesn’t matter. Blowing up an empty university building cannot be genocide. Your logic would mean genocide occurs if a small bush is blown up, so long as they wanted to destroy infrastructure. That’s not even remotely the definition of genocide.

Because genocide has a specific definition

another comedy quote

Imagine thinking genocide, expressly defined by the international Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, doesn’t have a specific meaning lmfao.

maybe you should work on your own reading comprehension, because i was pretty obviously referring to the un definition you've been citing until now not the jstor article that was made irrelevant by a later ruling clarifying what they'd misinterpreted

Weird, looks like the academic article I cited also cites the UN definition of genocide — which, by the way, you just said is “comedy” (weird take my guy).

Hamas has expressly stated that they want to eliminate the whole of Israel.

"whole or in part" is not satisfied.

That’s some mental gymnastics if I’ve ever seen it.

because what you've cited so far is: a source that disagrees with you

“Indeed, all of the elements for these crimes are satisfied in the September 11 attacks.” Pretty sure that’s my position sweetie.

a source that is rendered invalid by additional information in the first source

Hm, looks like both the first source and the “additional information” have the same definition of genocide.

Thanks for the laughs here I guess. It’s always a good time to find some thinly disguised Hamas simp trying to apply international law, lol.

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Blinken said last week that israel is blocking food and starving Gaza.

Pretty sure he didn’t say that.

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