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Youtube is waaaay different from pornhub. The amount of people uploading porn doesnt even begin to approach the amount of people uploading sfw content.

You can feasibly make people pay for porn, especially if you get a hot girl to advertise the content to lonely men.

SFW content though? How do you convince someone to pay for a gaming VOD, or some other type of mundane content? Hosting sfw video is just not profitable on the scale that youtube does it. Not without the backing of some SERIOUS money 😬

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This is a bad move, what do they plan to accomplish here?

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If you make an account on beehaw you cant see anything from lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works. Same in the opposite direction.

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Firstly, I want to say I appreciate your dedication to creating a well moderated and maintained community.

However, I feel like this is an overall bad decision.

Essentially what I'm thinking is, how is this sustainable?

The amount of control that youre trying to achieve here is going to create an increasingly small and insular community. Also, there is a serious risk of burn out on the moderation end if you're attempting to currate this much, the more this server grows the harder this is going to be to maintain.

With the type of platform that this is, we're going to have a wide variety of people. A lot of them are just going to be bad people. Simply defederating won't fix this, and it will also be a problem here even with manually approved sign ups.

If people want to, they will just lie to get in. Essentially your system right now relies on people not lying to you when they sign up. A targeted harassment campaign could easily overcome that.

What's next? Are we going to deferate kbin.social and mastodon.social? Why don't we just defederate every instance? Even the biggest social media platforms have a seriously hard time moderating content they actually don't want on their platform. You can literally find porn on Youtube.

Tipping your hand on the scales this much is really stressful for a small team, and often doesn't lead to the outcomes that you thought you wanted. I hope in the near future you refederate, but I understand if you don't.

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Growth for the sake of growth isn't always bad. I think the problem with Reddit is that it's growth for the sake of profit.

When we try to grow our communities it gives us wider influence over what a space looks like. Imagine if there is a cause a lot of users here want to promote and fight for, but they're defederated from some of the biggest instances?

The ability to grow gives you a seat at the table, and also allows you to influence others. That's essentially why people often centralize in one place on social media platforms.

I do understand your point of view though, I still disagree but respect it.

Don't be discouraged by people saying these protests don't work, or by subreddits going public

People discredit every type of protest, IRL or not. I think back to every major protest that's happened in response to some major event, and the response every time is "That won't ever work", "You're wasting your time", "Imagine caring about that"....

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Nice! I've heard good things about both. For the actual storage though, do you just backup to an S3 bucket or?

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Ooo that sounds nice.

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Well on the bright side, at least now a lot of people are on kbin and lemmy

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Soup brained pigs, they allowed this all to happen.

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There are none for my county, so looks like I have my work cut out for me 😬

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Okay, thanks :)

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Honestly, others do have point when they say we are basically leeching off of the platform. I honestly don't think I'd mind paying for youtube, I currently don't because it kind of just got ingrained in me that youtube was "free". I think the ad supported model is fundamentally flawed though.

Platforms will always want to make it worth it for advertisers to work for them. With the huge trove of user data that sites like Youtube, Twitter, Facebook etc. have they will use that to leverage personalized ads that will feed your brain with garbage all day and coax you into buying shit you don't need or sometimes even falling for scams.

I'd honestly like it better if these sites just straight up charged you right out of the gate. Maybe on top of that we could have sites be interoperable, like the fediverse, so it's not necessarily what the site offers but how they offer it to you. Making you want to pay for an experience that you truly can't get anywhere else.

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Yeah, the replicated youtube we'd need to either have a lot of money for hosting or use a decentralized model. The second option isnt even that feasible though.

How did you get into anime?

Although my first anime was back during early childhood (back when anime programme block was a regular thing in Indonesian television). Vulcan just really started following anime seriously during junior high school back in 2012 (classmates are into Attack on Titan and Sword Art Online during that time, and we often chatted about...

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She likes to keep it fresh, one smash per person 👍

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