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YSK: Blankets with smallpox isn't real. It's literally made up history. At no point did the genocide of native Americans happen due to being purposely given blankets riddled with smallpox. It happened due to them being exterminated piecemeal by the US Government and invaders. It's another piece of history whitewashed because of a historical ear worm with ALMOST zero truth. Native deaths came from the smallpox doing it's own thing while the US Government did the rest. There weren't explorers handing them out trying to kill natives, the government didn't have some sinister plot with blankets with smallpox, even if people were trying to kill natives with blankets riddled with smallpox, it wouldn't have worked... It's bullshit. Researchers and historians firmly believe it cannot really be passed on that way. Smallpox is a super fragile virus, it dies quickly outside of the body. You cannot give people blankets and contract smallpox from it the same way you can't contract herpes sitting on a toilet seat or AIDS from kissing someone with it.

If this were reddit you'd see it pinned on my profile. Alas, that's deleted so I'm going to try to post something similar here so I can cite it. Unfortunately a mod more recently deleted my last info dump when random people inevitably try to ad hominem so I'm doing it here again.

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Sauce regarding the 1 'verified' instance where a US Officer tried to give natives 2 blankets and a handkerchief at Fort Pitt. Historians believe the effectiveness to be almost entirely made up because you cannot give someone smallpox with blankets. Smallpox had already run rampant in the native population.*:

Https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the-us-army-distribute-smallpox-blankets-to-indians?rgn=main;view=fulltext

https://allthatsinteresting.com/smallpox-blankets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt

https://nativeteachingaids.com/cfd-blog/2020/7/24/smallpox-blankets

https://cherokeeregistry.com/smallpox-blankets-2/

https://allthatsinteresting.com/smallpox-blankets

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/unreserved/uncovering-the-complicated-history-of-blankets-in-indigenous-communities-1.5264926/the-complicated-history-of-the-hudson-s-bay-point-blanket-1.5272430

https://asm.org/Articles/2023/November/Investigating-the-Smallpox-Blanket-Controversy

Sauce regarding the far more prevalent reality of Native Americans dying from genocide and ethnic cleansing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_the_Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/wjdt_665385/2649_665393/202203/t20220302_10647120.html

https://hmh.org/library/research/genocide-of-indigenous-peoples-guide/

https://www.history.com/news/native-americans-genocide-united-states

PDF Warning: https://www.se.edu/native-american/wp-content/uploads/sites/49/2019/09/A-NAS-2017-Proceedings-Smith.pdf

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-shocking-savagery-of-americas-early-history-22739301/

https://www.unr.edu/nevada-today/news/2021/genocide-kill-indian-save-man

Post link: https://kbin.social/m/YouShouldKnow/p/3503101

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E: For clarity and conciseness since people were having issues somehow with me sourcing the 1 instance but somehow saying I wasn't including the 1 instance... that didn't work... because you can't give someone smallpox with blankets. Not only was it not even rare, there was only 1, verified, instance... which did not work. The colloquial use and thought of natives somehow being sneakily given smallpox through blankets regularly is a straight up lie. It sounds just plausible enough for people to share it but it has ZERO basis in reality. It doesn't work. And only 1 scumbag US Officer in a war against natives was ever confirmed to have tried it.

blanketswithsmallpox,
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Do certain medications which are are strong as some and worse than many illegal disqualify someone from owning a firearm? Wasn't there pretty wide claims about Trump popping pills which would disqualify him from owning a firearm anyway?

PDF Warning: PERSONS WHO ARE UNLAWFUL USERS OF OR ADDICTED TO ANY CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE

Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis apologize over letters of support for Danny Masterson (abcnews.go.com)

The three women were members of the Church of Scientology, as is Masterson. All three women said they were initially hesitant to speak to law enforcement because they said church teachings discouraged reporting to police. The women eventually left the church....

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I don't know about you guys, but if a great friend and coworker I knew to be an upstanding person got accused of raping people I didn't know, I'd be with my friend all the way.

When it comes out they actually did the thing? You condemn what they did.

This isn't some weird 'gotcha'. This is people who like to scrutinize people who watch the Kardashians essentially doing the same thing on the internet lol.

Having your trust and integrity betrayed is one of the most human and humbling moments possible. One which anybody who's had more than two friends or a family in their life has ALREADY gone through.

What a pile of low life tabloid shitmongery.

Don't be a fucking hypocrite. Do you want people to change their opinions with new information or not?

blanketswithsmallpox,
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When you're already a millionaire but didn't want to cash out because turns out you just liked riding the gambling high rather than treat it as a job.

What social taboos that exist today do you think will not be around in 100 years?

I was reading a book on social life of the upper-middle class and new rich of the American 1920s and realized so many things we now do proudly were considered socially taboo back then. This was especially the case for clothing, makeup, women in certain public spaces, etc. What do you think will be different in the 2120s? Or...

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Prostitution and drugs being illegal.

I have a hard time seeing a proper utopia driven society penalizing these. Everyone should be able to fuck. Everyone should be able to put whatever they want in their bodies too. Dicks or drugs, doesn't matter.

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My condolences on your pop.

Regarding leaving behind biohazard... You'd be surprised that the vast majority of first responders aren't trained for it and are liable if they try. Yes, it's kinda crazy and varies heavily by state.

First responders of any kind aren't trained for the cordiality or technical aspects of cleaning up biohazard scenes. It's very common. They're trained for patient care and that's it. They leave messes behind. They won't wash blood off your sidewalk. It's like walking into a personal nightmare for most people. Trained EMTs and paramedics are supposed to keep their PPE bagged and taken out with them, but if things get hectic, which is why they're there in the first place, stuff gets overlooked. Someone below already mentioned that it would've gotten shoved away to make room and it just gets forgot since it's not visible anymore

The fact of the matter is that they're there to triage and get them to the hospital, not tidy up after attempting to save someone's life.

The situation is macabre but it's a common one. A lot of people have felt that same weird surprise going back to where there loved one was to just find it a mess. There's no laws about them needing to clean. It's not the first time it's been brought up though.

If you're in the right state of mind you can call the nonemergency county line and ask if they have cleanup services for first responder scenes... the vast majority don't though. Those that do usually take a day or more to get there.

9/10 times it's family doing all of it.

I work pretty closely with just about every type of first responder in my line of work just to qualify this a bit... I've had to deal with this same issue in my personal life and professional. It's the same just about everywhere from what I know.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2013/05/02/cleaning-up-crime-and-accident-scenes-a-grim-task/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499999/

https://www.ems1.com/legal/articles/detroit-mandates-first-responders-clean-bloody-scenes-CQ4raY15GiJjbQW9/

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1123029

EDIT: I did forget to say that those cleanup services are usually going to cost YOU out of pocket. Some states or counties subsidize them though...

Also minor grammar/clarifications.

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