fiat_lux

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fiat_lux,

I love how completely cool and casual the cat is about the entire situation. Like it's just up to date with the latest lizard-tongue-piercing trend, and it's a little thing called fashion, you wouldn't understand.

fiat_lux,

This is what life should look like for everyone - safe, comfy, warm, dry, clean and happy sleep.

fiat_lux,

I'm not who you were replying to, but I just want to wish you the absolute best of luck in your health battle. Empathy is in short supply at the best of times, but showing empathy when you're in the middle of something so hard is next level. I bet you also make an excellent pizza, even if that's not where you expected to be working.

I'll have my fingers crossed for you, friend. Fuck cancer and everything that it entails.

fiat_lux,

I laughed out loud, it was too perfect as sequential posts in my feed, especially with the cute "getalong shark" name. Nicely played.

fiat_lux,

Aw, clean socks. What a mighty and considerate hunter.

fiat_lux,

The bond between the seal and the jar is stronger than the bond between the layers of the seal. So peeling it separates the layers and leaves behind the thin papery final seal layers instead of removing the whole seal.

Admittedly this is better than the seal on one of my medications. It removes in one pull... if you can find and pull the tiniest sliver of edge of the seal, because they leave zero overhang.

fiat_lux,

You can just see the two shredded sections on the edge where I was deliberately and carefully trying to include all layers and they just tore off instead. I don't know if this is a technique thing, but if it is, I would love to know what I am doing wrong, because it happens to me all the damn time.

fiat_lux,

The irony of that being true for my ADHD medication bottle is not at all lost on me. It's like a tiny extra "fuck you".

fiat_lux,

I hated the design of that too, so very much.

fiat_lux,

Lol, no worries. Food ones always seem to work better too, but as soon as it's medications or supplements, they use the shitty ones or the over-secure ones. We should get the peanut butter and Pringle's manufacturers in the room with the pharmaceutical industry and make them talk.

fiat_lux,

Other than slight annoyance when things are hard to open, it’s better.

Sure, if you are not experiencing the symptoms of medical conditions. Especially the conditions that led you to be opening the bottle in the first place, that's when it's especially insulting on top of the additional pain/fatigue the situation generates.

It's not even that I don't like seals. I love the caps and covers on the tins and bottles and jars of food in my kitchen. I even love recyclable ziplock bags, and there are flimsy takeaway containers out there that are literally watertight. I just don't like seals that are poorly made. There are products with usable seals out there, I know this first-hand. I've used them. I use them everyday.

Even then, not everything we consume has to be Fort Knox just because someone tainted a product intentionally or accidentally in the past. There are product recalls for various problems everyday and yet I've avoided getting ill from my groceries my entire life. I'm fine with buying my bread in a paper bag, I don't need them to start using hermetically sealed boxes with padlocks.

And honestly, there are so many points in the production lines of most things where someone has the opportunity to stick their dick in something, that I just can't dedicate the energy to entertaining that possibility on a daily basis. I also can no more verify that the last burger I ate was made by someone who washed their hands, any more than I can verify that the tomatoes I'm buying to make ketchup for homemade burgers weren't grown using human faeces and picked by slaves. And I say this as someone who has some immunity issues: There are just too many vectors for various kinds of contamination than you can imagine, let alone reasonably safeguard against - you have to pick and choose to battle the most likely to occur or kill you. I do not battle the possibility of penis in my products. I just don't have that kind of time.

We have the technology. This situation literally doesn't need to exist for anyone ever. And yet it's clearly common as fuck.

fiat_lux,

Ugh. I believe them already. It's sealed for my protection. I get it. It says so nearly 100 times. I don't check the seals for syringe marks first either, or the factory's latest cleanroom maintenance logs. Just let me in, I already paid the extortionate entry fee.

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind so much if they always were just paper I could poke a finger through at the end. Sometimes there's another super stretchy thick plastic layer under that which resists everything but blades. I don't want to keep a knife in my bathroom, but I'm getting to the point where I've thought about it.

fiat_lux,

This looks like a cheaply made seal wad to me

The seal looked to be perfectly vacuumed when I opened it, and the lid wasn't a tight one, so I suspect you're right. But someone else in the thread indicated that this may also be a "feature"? I'm not sure if it's a post hoc rationalisation of shit supply purchase choice or a deliberate design decision or a manufacturing error, but it doesn't matter. I hate it all the same.

Also, thanks for providing me with a proper specific name for these things, and the gift of your experience in all things sealed.

fiat_lux, (edited )

This was a supplement I was opening on my way to the bathroom, where I keep my medication. Long covid memories makes ms forget everything to open first. Long covid memory problems also make me fail to double check my posts every time for bad autocorrect.

fiat_lux,
fiat_lux,

You need d-limonene (orange peel extract) for adhesive removals. It works wonders by comparison to the things you tried, but even then I can still spend a good 10 mins on the same problem!

fiat_lux,

I hear you. I definitely recommend picking up a tiny bottle of it, a little goes a long way! I'm still using the same 6oz bottle I bought maybe 7 years ago!

fiat_lux,

If this were a problem limited to one product or brand, I would. Unfortunately this one was a first time purchase too.

fiat_lux, (edited )

It looks like Goo Gone has some in it, but it's mostly petroleum based. D-limonene is a nifty (refined) by-product of citrus agriculture, it's essentially just the oil from the peels. I use a product that's basically half D-Limonene, half anionic and non-ionic surfactants (which is somewhat the equivalent of shampoo and sugar alcohol).

fiat_lux,

I've got a couple of things that I buy which have the best ziploc seals I've ever seen, and I wish I could reuse the bags for other things, except they're opaque and printed. But I have definitely met my fair share of terrible ziplocs too. Nothing like spending 10mins struggling with a shitty ziploc seal when you were just trying to put some food in the freezer.

fiat_lux,

I would be fine with mediocre or even shitty adhesive properties here. It's protected and pressure is maintained using a solid HDPE capped jar with perforations, which is already a tamper-evident seal. I don't need a padlock on it either. Or even a disability-proof cap (the manufacturers prefer the name "child-proof" though). And there are multiple adhesives which don't impart odor or flavor. Even superglue wouldn't do it, given you need less than a tiny smear. What an odd false dichotomy you have given me.

Behold, could this be the best of both worlds? (image description: glass bottle with half-peeled seal. The separation is clean and easy and lacks flavor.)

fiat_lux,

Huh, I've never experienced that. And I take a lot of pills. They might have really bad binders or compression at the factory where they're making yours? But that does sound very irritating, I'm annoyed enough when I cut pills in half and it breaks into not-halves.

I have, however, cut myself on the foil a few times. And that stuff is sharp. Not sharp enough to get through the shitty seal in my first pic, but enough to really slice fingers if you're not looking.

fiat_lux,

Oh man, the edges got all crunchy. They look even better!

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fiat_lux,

Thanks for the recommendation! I will try him out right now.

fiat_lux,

Yep, that completely fits with what I thought it sounded like. Thanks for the verification of my gut feeling!

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