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jdp23

@jdp23@kbin.social

Hi!!! I’m a strategist/entrepreneur/software engineer/activist, focusing on the intersection of justice, equity, and software engineering. I've been on the fediverse for a long time and am currently checking out /KBin. @jdp23 is my main account on Mastodon, and I also run @nexusofprivacy

Threads Will Break Kbin And Lemmy: interoperability isn't just about the protocol

With the launch of Threads, there's been a lot of interesting talk about the safety and privacy risks it poses to people on the fediverse, if and when Meta begins federating. But it's also worth examining the risks to the social systems....

/kbin - a few quick announcements

Good morning! :) Today I want to focus mainly on reviewing the pull requests you've submitted. There are many great things there that will help improve the kbin experience. That's amazing, thank you! I'm also in the final stages of sorting out the infrastructure-related formalities. Soon, the situation with the website's...

Nadya, (edited )
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Please educate yourself on Tankies. They're a bunch of fascist genocide apologists that are quite literally as bad as Nazis. Similar hateful ideology, just as fascist, same tactics of mass genocide, and they believe they are morally correct in anything they do because they're anti-Capitalism and anti-Western nations.

It's a little more than "liking Stalin". Genocide is merely a means to an end in an effort to establish a Socialist nation and as long as it is helping progress towards a Socialist state then it is morally correct to do so in their world view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

E:

Tiananmen Square massacre? Never happened - that's Western propaganda.

The Uyghur genocide? Not a genocide - the Uyghur are religious extremists and deserve to be imprisoned. Please stop listening to Western propaganda.

Holodomor? More Western propaganda that never happened.

Hong Kong? They need to stop being children and accept that Hong Kong is part of China. The protests are anti-China propaganda being paid for by the US and Britain to make China look bad.

Russia is defending itself from Ukraine aggression and like always - Western nations are quick to interfere and turn it into anti-Russia propaganda.

A small FAQ to hopefully help new users to kbin (kilioa.org)

I wanted to post this here since I want to help as much as I can in my own way to people coming here for the first time. I hope it is useful and helpful! I tried to assume low knowledge with the Fediverse in my responses which I collected here from a different post and assembled into a single article....

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dragfyre,
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A little note from the OP, who is having some trouble updating and replying to this post due to federation issues:

alyaza,
@alyaza@beehaw.org avatar

yeah. we're trying to really curb who we're adding at this point to "people who actually want to be here that align with our goals" so it's not completely overwhelming (our backlog of admissions is about 100)

Rentlar,

Exactly. Over at lemmy.ca there were just a handful of users posting regularly making up the entire feed until recently, now it looks like it's starting to pick up as well. That is probably the story of all growing Fediverse communities lately.

Lemmy is not a publicly traded company so growth is not the paramount priority of its existence, but it is certainly great to have a sizeable place where there are enough people around who care about each other.

nickajeglin,

For the guide, I needed an explanation on how to subscribe to local vs. not local communities. Also, the difference in subscribing to a federated community that is already linked to your instance, vs linking it the first time (by copy pasting it's address into the search bar). Especially note that you might have to wait a few minutes after searching it the first time, refresh, then search again to be able to sub. That was really confusing. Also that process doesn't seem to work at all if you're in jerboa, at least for me.

Also, how to sub in jerboa: you probably have to open the sidebar.

Those have been most confusing so far. I didn't really need a guide on "this is how federated systems work", as much as a step by step guide for finding and subscribing to communities of interest. Honestly, an mspaint/screenshot idiot's guide with "click here first" level instructions would go a really long way in helping people figure it out, then we could copypasta it easily as well.

For finding content, https://browse.feddit.de/ has come in handy.

/kbin - Sunny June Announcement

Hi everyone, it seems that we have quite a gathering here, and many of you I haven't had the chance to greet yet :) As some of you may know, /kbin is still in its early stages of development. Every day, improvements and new features are being worked on. Unfortunately, this may result in occasional short downtimes. However, the...

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dragfyre,
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Allons-y pour kbin en français o/

dameoutlaw,
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Definitely not. Before people were migrating from Twitter only just to go back

nutomic,
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Its also possible that Reddit rows back from the API change (at least temporarily). I hope they do, so that we have a bit more time to get Lemmy ready.

Reddit has permanently suspended my account for supporting Lemmy.

I have been supporting Lemmy recently a lot and made posts about Lemmy that got big reach. Today, sadly the reddit account through which, I moderated a lot of subs and spent time on, comes to an end. The reason was because I spammed according to reddit, but the reality is that they have censored me because I was hurting Reddit....

cody, to kbinDesign
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Some thoughts on voting UI

cody,
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@kris Upvotes and downvotes work and do the job, the problem is that they require a disciplined community and admins.

If the ratings do not affect the real ranking, users do not see the point in it, they get irritated and the service slowly but surely dies. It happened with digg, it's happening with its Polish clone, wykop.pl, and it's happened with several other counterparts.

Unfortunately, the natural course of things. The site becomes popular, money begins to appear, this affects the ranking through sponsored content and begins a slow decline.

upvote/downvote meets the needs you write about. If it works as it should. It is less important whether it will be an arrow, stars, hearts or any other object used to illustrate the functionality.

Though maybe thumbs up/down would be a better choice than arrows.

kris,
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@cody My point was mainly that bundling these two technically and conceptually different interactions into what appears to be the same thing just with a positive or negative sign is not the best UI design wise.

Mastodon monoculture problem (rys.io)

Mastodon-the-software is used by far by the most people on fedi. The biggest instance, mastodon.social, is home to over 200.000 active accounts as of this writing. This is roughly 1/10th of the whole Fediverse, on a single instance. Worse, Mastodon-the-software is often identified as the whole social network, obscuring the fact...

Kierunkowy74,
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After writing that article:

  • Akkoma grew fivefold in Monthly Active Users (from 2 to 10 thousands), with much credit to mycrowd.ca
  • Lemmy and /kbin combined more then doubled, from over 1 thousand to almost 3 thousands
  • FediDB revealed, that the most active fediverse instance (by new post count) is actually misskey.io, not mastodon.social

On Reddit and it’s federated rivals, Lemmy and kbin (www.jayeless.net)

As you may have heard, Reddit’s decided to pull a Twitter and start charging an extortionate amount of money for access to their previously-free API, in order to drive third-party clients like Apollo and RIF into extinction. Under Reddit’s proposed pricing, …

tojikomori,
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The linked article summarizes the problems in the paragraph starting "I've been aware of Lemmy for a long time". For an alternative view: the Fedi.Tips account on Mastodon – typically a cheerleader for all apps of the FediVerse – shared some more pointed words about them in this thread and reiterated the warning just yesterday after noticing the Lemmy team's successful recruitment campaign on Reddit.

I was one of the people they recruited, and ran into problems myself only after signing up at lemmy.ml and being surprised by the amount of CCP propaganda posted there. At first I thought it was strange that I was being downvoted for pointing it out, and that the devs (also admins of that instance) ignored/downvoted me when I flagged the issue for their attention. After researching a bit, I found that Lemmy's basically developed and maintained by two people, both of whom seem to be westerners fetishizing Mao Zedong Thought – literally to the point of writing lengthy apologetics for the CCP's human rights abuses including the Uyghur genocide.

They're clearly skilled engineers, but I can't trust or support them, and relying on instance of Lemmy means I'd have to do both.

ernest,
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I've been thinking about it lately, and I even wanted to change it quickly, but it turns out it's not easy, and I wouldn't want to make such a big change hastily. It will have to wait a bit because I have a queue of critical tasks, and more external matters are diverting my attention. I've also decided to make the placement of the boost/fav entirely configurable by the instance admin.

Honestly, I love the current state, I'm very used to it, and I would like to keep it. At least on my smaller instance. I also have plans for a short interactive tutorial that will briefly explain how the most important features on the website work.

However, I completely understand the arguments that some change is needed. But making it configurable won't take much more time than making it fixed. Downvotes won't be federated.

There is another option worth considering as well: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/15

Thanks for the feedback!

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