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okawari

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I host a bunch of websites for normal small businesses many of them have contact forms and all of them have captcha.
We've seen a steady rise in spam that gets through it over the last year or so. I don't have any concrete numbers at hand, but we've heard from customers that they used to get a few spam replies once in a while before but get 10-20 a day over prolonged periods of time now.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're aproaching a point where computers are better at solving captchas than human.

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I'm not sure this is true anymore. Ernest posted about this yesterday, I think. Upvotes are now considered and boosts counts as two upvotes.

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Noticed that as well, guess twitter will become much less linked to in the future?

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I checked out how much it would cost to for example make live streaming platform using AWS on the backend. This is an example they give on their cost/pricing page:

Approximately 10,000 viewers for a one-hour live event using a high definition (HD)-1080p encoding profile is approximately $12.50 for live encoding and packaging + $1531.49 for 18,017GB distribution = $1,543.99 for the one-hour event.

AWS is known to be VERY expensive, you can probably save quite a bit with a smaller setup, but I don't think a longer 5+ hour stream would be cheap if done outside of these platforms.

I'dd love to hear if anyone has any real life experience with hosting large live streams like this on the cheap.

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I think there is a pull-request in for automatic account deletion, but for now the admins do it manually.

I'dd hop on matrix in the kbin.social channel and ask the admins directly from there. The official room for kbin is https://matrix.to/#/#kbin:matrix.org

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My boardgame group bought Blood on the clocktower last week. It's by far our favorite hidden identity game now. Gonna play it again this weekend

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I think that echo chambers are inherently self destructive if left to their own devices. When a group can drop pretenses of normality and feed onto themselves they become more unpalatable for your average person making the ideology harder to agree with.

Lemmy.ml is blocking all requests from /kbin Instances (kbin.social)

I discovered yesterday evening that Lemmy.ml is blocking all inbound ActivityPub requests from /kbin instances. Specifically, a 403 'access denied' is returned when the user agent contains "kbinBot" anywhere in the string. This has been causing a cascade of failures with federation for many server owners, flooding the message...

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I'm genuinely not sure, but since ernest shows up as mod on all external magazines, I wouldn't be surprised if it blocked everything.

In fact, If you go to https://kbin.social/d/kbin.social today, you do see the external posts.

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If you check the sidebar of a magazine, you will see a link to a log of all moderator actions such as deletions and what not.

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I hope a fair few move over, but I'm afraid the number of 3rd party app users is lower than we anticipate

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I'm happy we're getting another episode, this has been one of my favorites this season.

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It depends. The last thing I bought was a burger. Do I have a subscription to burgers, or just that burger? ;)

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I don't agree with this.

We should work towards better tools for letting people tailor make their own feeds to show the content they want to see, not call for defederation based on content or ideology.

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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but external content that gets federated to your server is entirely based on the subscriptions of users native to your server? So as long as no native users of kde subscribes to NSFW content it shouldn't really end up on their servers. As far as I know, content is not synchronized between servers just because they know of each other.

Assuming paragraph one is correct, then KDE can achieve a NSFW free server by merely limiting who gets accounts on their own server; as they should. This is just like Google not handing out @google.com addresses to every gmail user. Federation would still allow users from any instance to interact with the kde communities without problem. This means no one can make magazines/communities on the KDE server not related to KDE and any content moderation of KDE's communities would just like any other.

Malicious instances are more likely to be talking about instances abusing the federation apis in order to spam or otherwise cause havoc, not about that instances content policy.

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Yes, content mirroring is involved but not unprompted, or am i wrong here? In a hypothetical situation where I host my own, single user instance, I would only mirror content that I have subscribed to?

Wouldn't this then better be considered a problem between an instance and its own native users, more than an issue between instances?

If I am completely wrong in how the Fediverse works, then I rescind my previous comments.

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That is correct, I did downvote your comment!

Damn, I had not considered this angle. I can see that being a problem, wonder why we've done it this way with Lemmy/kbin and not just redirect to the host instance like mastodon does. Surely, for instances that don't want to federate certain kinds of content, this would be the way to bypass this whole issue.

My initial thought that prompted this entire chain is that I think we should try our damnest to ensure that the fediverse as much of a coherent network as possible, it will have problematic communities and servers and surely we are going to have to expel the absolute rotten apples, but accepting the diversity of the system and dealing with it locally.

I am not advocating for tolerating illegal content here, just to be clear. I'm all for moderating them on a community level or server level if needed be, should they not fix the underlying issue.

In essence, the less likely any outside entity can demand we change in order to benefit them, the better. KDE/Mozilla/Meta whoever should do their down due-diligence and decide how they want to approach the fediverse, blemishes and all in order to make the site they want to make.
I don't think it is unreasonable for the KDE instance to have to redirect profile as an example if they find content in them to be possibly questionable.

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It looks really nicely wrapped up, but i still hope for a season 2.

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I only skimmed the video, but kinda paused when they ran a deployment function on a git repository, suggesting they are still just an external hosting provider.

This struck me as a traditional web host with a built in javascript framework.

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I think their edge is that they are privacy focused, you can take control of your own data and use non commercial services, like theirs to host your website. Maybe I'm misrepresenting them here, but thats what I got out of it.

In general, I'm receptive to a new creative space where people can make small fun sites and experiences again like before on the old web. But privacy was not the reason it went out of fashion, so I don't think their pitch for what is essentially a way to host websites.

I'm sure it would be possible to self host a kitten site, but unless the code for their infrastructure is open sourced as well as their public tooling then there is both a hosting dependence, and vendor lock in, which is kind of the opposite of freeing your data.

Hopefully, I'm just misreading the project entirely, I don't really want to hate on someone's effort.

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Agreed. I found the process of buying a domain and a webhost to be both cheap and quite painless. Once logged in I would even be able to make email addresses and do one click installations of lots of common software such as wordpress.

I'dd say that if you just want to get your stuff out on the web without being under the umbrella of a larger corporation, the bar is quite low if you know where to look.

I would much more like to see this bloom into something that mixes with the fediverse. Some kind of easy to use tool that would allow you to create your websites, but also broadcast your changes and your content. Kind of like a webring on steroids

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I think Prigozhin is aiming for a position where he will need the support of a lot of people in order to get what he wants, even if succeeds with his objective. He is rallying support outside of Wagner, in order to gain legitimacy or acceptance for his end goal, whatever that may be.

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Thought I'd hate it. But all in all i came out of the cinema with a positive experience. The plot is kinda basic, but it captures a homebrew dnd campaign pretty well. It's a lot of fun

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I say they can, this is kind of what we have seen with Chrome tbh.

Google came in, made an awesome browser got market majority and started just implementing things to the point where its hard to keep up and the various specification bodies kind of just have to ratify things that is already in the browser or become obsolete, afaik this happened with components such as the in browser DRM which by design makes it hard to implement.

I think this can come true as long as we let them insert themselves into the ecosystem. The difference here is that we have the option to keep our part of the fediverse pristine by not federating with these servers, even if we doom ourselves to obscurity by doing it.

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