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athos77, to world in Israel warns Ireland over calls to break trade links

Oh, no, is Israel afraid their lives may be inconvenienced by the actions of another country? What a terrible thing - wherever will they go for their life-sustaining, essential supplies of [checks notes] broadcasting equipment, computers, and integrated circuits?

xc2215x, to news in Trump says he'll be a dictator only 'on day one' if elected

He will be worse than last time.

nicetriangle,
nicetriangle avatar

Yeah the fact that he doesn't have a lawful reelection to consider is concerning. Also concerning when you think about the fact that he clearly thinks being the president shields him from a lot of legal ramifications.

So he doesn't have to temper his behavior to get reelected in any way. He has a shitload of grudges. Pursuing those grudges would likely be various shades of illegal. He thinks staying in office will protect him from the consequences of his actions. That is a recipe for a constitutional crisis if I ever saw one.

ConditionOverload, to news in Trump says he'll be a dictator only 'on day one' if elected
@ConditionOverload@lemmy.world avatar

Lol and his fans are still totally fine with him saying dangerous crap like his. It’s unbelievable.

grue,

Why wouldn’t they be fine with it? A dictatorship is exactly what those traitors genuinely want.

prole,

Or think they want… Until they end up being part of a group that’s targeted.

100_kg_90_de_belin,

No one who cheers for a dictator thinks that they’ll be ever targeted. There is a large number of minorities for Trump to obliterate before turning to white cis-het neurotypical Republican voters.

Kleinbonum,

That’s because they like the idea of a Trump dictatorship. They simply assume they’d be on the side that’s going to do the dictating.

ElleChaise,

Can't dictate from a burnt down house. Can't dictate with a bullet rattling around your head. I don't know about the rest of you'se, but I'm not going to be dictated by any rat fuck righties. They can have, and lose, their second civil war.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein,

The scary thing is they literally don’t even hear it. It doesn’t get played on Fox News, and hearing it from any other source will make them prejudge it and ignore it as liberal propaganda.

bappity, to news in Trump says he'll be a dictator only 'on day one' if elected
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

if the US actually re elect him they’re fucked

Enkers, (edited )

Yup, and Trump doesn’t have a choice. It’s looking more and more likely that he’s going to lose a lot of money and potentially face jail time. His only way out is to seize power. Since he’s backed himself into a corner, he’ll try everything to steal the next election, including another coup attempt.

I don’t personally think it’ll work, but on the slim chance it does many of us will be facing an existential threat which will require swift action. He’s already publicly stated that he sees leftists as vermin which need to be eradicated, and I, for one, don’t want to give him the chance to act on that threat.

deweydecibel, (edited )

Of course he has a choice.

He can choose facing the consequences of his actions.

If that’s unappealing, he can also choose to, let’s say, “pull an Epstein”.

Let’s not give him the benefit of saying this is the only “strategy” he has left, because that implies you can’t blame him for trying. Like any reasonable person in his position would do the same thing.

And that’s complete nonsense. He’s not an animal stuck in a bear trap, he’s a human being, who has been very open about his penchant for fascism long before he was charged.

EvacuateSoul,

pension for fascism

If you are making a joke here, it is funny.

Karyoplasma,

Epstein did not kill himself.

echodot,

Regardless it’s an option for him.

hydrospanner,

Nobody said otherwise.

If somehow, Trump managed to off himself despite constant monitoring by his secret service detail, what a shame that’d be.

I might have to take a day off of work just to celebrate.

Enkers,

I’m speaking pragmatically. Perhaps ‘choice’ wasn’t the best word.

He can choose facing the consequences of his actions.

If that’s unappealing, he can also choose to, let’s say, “pull an Epstein”.

I find both of these alternatives extremely unlikely, but here’s hoping.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

He’s too much of a narcissist to pull an Epstein

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah and Donnie’s definition of leftist is anyone that isn’t actively deep throating his boot

DogWater,

The leftists need to learn how to use guns and own them. SocialistRA and liberalgunowners are communities that welcome leftist gun enthusiasts and new comers who want to learn for whatever reason.

Honytawk,

There are plenty of “leftists” who own guns in the US.

They just don’t flaunt it around like the rightards do.

DogWater,

As evident by the 2 orgs I Listed in my comment. I’m aware, but most of the left aren’t gun owners, like 70%. I’m obviously not talking about the ones who already are.

Szymon,

We’re all fucked, not just the states

snekerpimp,

This is the “best” America can push forward, we are already fucked. We were fucked 24 years ago.

grue,

We were fucked 24 years ago.

Exactly: that’s when the first coup (the Brooks Brothers Riot) succeeded.

Nougat,

The right wing in America has been sliding further right for a long time, and tending to drag the left along with it. (Nobody is under the impression that the US "left" isn't actually center-right.) In the last decade, that rightward silde has accelerated. Trump, being the presumptive Republican nominee for president, is the "best" that the lunatic far right - not America - can push forward.

The Democratic party, representing the left center-right, is no longer allowing itself to be dragged further right. And there remains a fairly large proportion of people who still call themselves Republicans who oppose the burgeoning fascism. Those are the people who feel politically homeless right now; they just need someplace to go and someone to vote for. Liz Cheney is floating a third party run, and I think she's easily able to consolidate "sane conservative" support.

I was predicting that the Republican party would split back in 2015. I had no idea they would drag on like this for so long.

prole,

The right wing in America has been sliding further right for a long time, and tending to drag the left along with it.

See: Overton Window

ZILtoid1991,
ZILtoid1991 avatar

Issue is, the whole world will be effected by it.

kpw,

Hard to say what would have happened, but I feel like I was pretty much unaffected as an European the last time.

problematicPanther,
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

I live in europe currently, and there’s been a hard right turn here since trump seriously got on the scene. In france Macron only beat the female french trump by a small margin. In Italy, they’ve elected a hard right person as their leader, In switzerland, the right wing party is in power. Trump was the first domino to fall and now we’re going to be seeing shit like that all over.

but yeah, I was pretty much not directly affected by any of that shit that happened stateside.

Eatspancakes84,

It is difficult to say because you do not observe the counterfactual. I would definitely say we would have progressed more on climate action if HRC had become president. Also, the culture war issues would have definitely played out differently. The Trump presidency also emboldened Putin, which may have affected the situation in Ukraine. But again, in foreign policy so many things happen simultaneously that it’s often difficult to pinpoint direct causes.

Krukenberg,

If that is the objective truth, then count yourself lucky for being a white, ethno-european, climate denier.

kpw,

Yeah, probably wasn't great for climate action, but that's true for all conservative politicians not just the crazy ones. How did Trump affect whites and non-whites living in Europe differently?

rambaroo,

Stuff and reasons, basically. But actually the worst thing he could do is try to leave or undermine NATO, and ditch Ukraine

otp,

In Canada, we’ve seen a rise in Trump-like politics…

MisterNeon,
@MisterNeon@lemmy.world avatar

As an American I think we’re fucked already.

Sabata11792,
Sabata11792 avatar

Were fucked, We just get a 50% chance to choose what hole.

Nastybutler,
YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think the American people would ever let a Dictator get that far. If Trump gets nominated by the GOP you’ll see so much violence that by election day the entire course of history in the United States will be forever changed. I personally believe the GOP will not let him be nominated and will reject him. Trump will run third party and split the vote and give the Democrats a huge win.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

They literally had the chance to stop him during his second impeachment after the attempted insurrection. Anyone who didn’t do it then, sure as hell isn’t going to do anything now.

The last thing the GOP wants to do is piss off his supporters right before the next presidential election. The electoral college could have ousted him during the 2016 election (as people had floated around) too. There’s just not enough people are willing or have the desire to reject him. Many would love to have him as a dictator, they just need the right pieces in the SCOTUS to say it’s in the constitution.

He’s 100% going to be the nominee now. Even if he goes to jail, he’s still going to be the nominee. The time for anything different is LONG past.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

I wished I could be so optimistic. They have had endless chances to reject him and haven’t. It’s almost like Putin has some leverage on a bunch of em lol.

He will get nominated, but hopefully my fellow Americans will not let him return to the white house.

nicetriangle,
nicetriangle avatar

Maybe instead he'll just die while shitting on his gold toilet some time next year. Would be kinda nice.

prole,

Why do you think there will be violence before the election, but after Trump’s nomination? In this scenario, in your mind, who are the ones that kick off this violence?

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Historical evidence on the rise of Dictators. You have to opress your opposition through violence to look strong. I foresee Kent State style responses from Trump loyalists in law enforcement.

prole,

Before the election? Why would they do it before the election? I don’t really understand what you’re saying.

Mirshe,

If you prosecute violence against your opposition, publicly and with great force, you run a good chance of terrifying large portions of your opposition’s voting base into not voting for fear of implied violence.

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

You think they want a fair election? It will be January 6 on steroids.

prole,

Yes, and Jan 6 happened after the election…

They will be fine (as fine as these nutjobs can be) until the results are announced. If Trump loses, then they go crazy. If he wins, they’ll be very happy (but also go crazy because these people are insane).

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

They are not going to risk an election.

sailingbythelee,

I wish that were true, but I suspect that the American people have become too passive to resist a dictator. He won’t take over by force, but cloaked in legitimacy, just like Hitler and Mussolini did. Heck, you don’t even have to go back that far. That’s Putin’s playbook, too. A Republican President also has a Supreme Court that favors very strong presidential powers and a permanently divided and largely impotent Congress. No real resistance there.

So, what’s left? The police? American police would love having more power under a dictator. The public hates cops these days, and a dictator would restore their “rightful place” as respected and feared enforcers who will “clean up the streets”.

The military? Well, that’s a wild card. They may not support a dictator, but they also don’t want to start a civil war. I think a US dictator will give himself enough legal cover and legitimacy to convince the military to hang back from interfering in politics.

The most likely source of resistance is from individual states. However, I’m not sure what they can do, realistically. Secession would certainly start a civil war, which would play right into the dictator’s hands, giving him the perfect excuse to suspend rights and use the military for domestic purposes.

prole,

The military? Well, that’s a wild card.

Just want to mention Tommy Tuberville holding up military appointments. Unrelated I’m sure.

Despite claiming he will stop blocking such appointments, he is still going to continue blocking the appointments of 3 and 4 star generals.

Cannacheques,

Let’s not demonize Trump man, he really brought what a lot of people thought would be a culture war into an economic war, which you may think is bad, but it’s actually brought a more muted epiphany for many across both sides that for many people jobs are very important to their lives, unlike in EU where places like Scandinavia, Spain or Greece see culture wars as mud to be stepped on and brushed off but economic sanction is a more realistic declaration of conflict of interest

Chainweasel, to news in Trump says he'll be a dictator only 'on day one' if elected

You can only become a dictator one time, after that you are a dictator.
So he’ll only “become” a dictator on day one, the rest of his life hell just be a dictator.
And let’s not entertain the fantasy that his heath will catch up to him sooner rather than later, remember he has access to better healthcare than 99% of the population and it’s entirely state funded.
We’ll be stuck with him for at least a decade, but I wonder who will inherit the throne when he’s gone?

problematicPanther,
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

evil people tend to live longer too. it took kissinger a hundred years before he did anything decent with his life.

treefrog, to world in Taoiseach says he does not regret Israel 'revenge' comment

Varadkar is catching flak for saying very softly what the Israeli government is admitting openly?

Israel has declared itself at war and vowed “immense” revenge…

independent.co.uk/…/israel-palestine-hamas-attack…

sirboozebum,

I’m sorry, making this post makes you an anti-semite.

treefrog,

I didn’t down vote. I figured it was sarcasm.

sirboozebum,

It is sad that I need to confirm this.

One of my other sarcastic posts was deleted by a moderator.

ShroOmeric,

sad trombone noise

FlyingSquid, to atheism in Sinéad O'Connor just died. It's worth reminding that her life was destroyed after she made the bold move and criticized the Church and pope John Paul II regarding the problem of child molestation.
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Very true, but she was also a religious nut. I’m glad she did what she did, even though almost no one understood the protest at the time, but she was her own brand of crazy Catholic.

SnowboardBum,
SnowboardBum avatar

Pretty sure she converted to Islam in the last decade.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m doing some reading on that now. She apparently said she was always a Muslim which… I have no idea how that works.

amio,

God did it, of course.

hello_cruel_world,

Yea, she converted to islam and then called all non-muslims disgusting or something along those lines. She then claimed she said that to get kicked off from twitter.

Why you’d go from Catholic to Islam is a mystery but each to their own. She was however far from a shining example of mental stability.

EhList,

She had a brief sint as a Catholic Priest in a heretical denomination

jesterraiin,

Why you’d go from Catholic to Islam is a mystery

Many reasons.

  • you meet “that special person” who convinces you that it’s logical thing to do
  • "Jerusalem Syndrome" variation
  • you begin to study relevant scripture without learning about its practical application by the real followers
  • just to infuriate your former "co-believers"
  • because it’s the only way to open certain possibilities, otherwise forbidden to you
  • you “wake up” to “truth” because of a vision you’re getting (or because of your apophenia-like state of mind)
Nowyn,

Many converts that convert into Islam use this language. You return or revert to Islam as in you always were Muslim and just didn’t know enough of the truth. Not sure if her language indicates this or actually always having been Muslim but based on her earlier statements I would guess it is the former.

sab,

Aye. I remember it being big news worldwide that she tore up a picture of the pope. It was only decades later that I found out it was to protest molestations.

EhList,

It was in protest to the Catholic Church’s treatment of women. The molestation scandal came out about fifteen years later

sab, (edited )

Source? According to Wikipedia it was the molestations, for which the pope apologised 9 years later, so 15 seems far fetched.

Edit: Granted, at the time all she said was Fight the real evil, so no wonder people were confused.

EhList,

The two sources wikipedia uses to make that claim are from after the scandal broke and neither quote O’Connor.

The first apology I can fund fir sex abuse is 2008 so 17 years later

In 1991 people joked about priests raping kids but it was not common knowledge that the problem was widespread at the time.

ziggysane,

She literally added the lyric “child abuse” to her performance of “War” prior to tearing up the photo.

EhList,

Which was a reference to the abuse she suffered in the Irish Laundries. Are you aware she was in one as a teen?

Aldrond, (edited )

The Catholic Church is a criminal organization, and I mean what I say. Its high-ranking officials should be on trial.

She was ahead of the curve. Every pope is a bastard including the current, Pope “Molesty-up-cover” Francis.

Valmond,

True. One of the last ones were in Hitler Jugend but let’s forgive and forget simple wrongdoings like being pro Nazi or raping children

Aldrond,

No, honestly, as much as I dislike every Pope, that one wasn’t his fault.

Hitler Youth was not optional, and they absolutely hurt and abused children under their care. I know because I know someone who was forced into that situation and suffers lasting trauma from it.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I remember it well and pretty much everyone at the time was baffled because the scandal just wasn’t that well-known outside of specific Catholic circles yet. Which just gave priests more time and more coverage until it actually started coming out in a big way a few years ago. It should have started the ball rolling then and there, but ripping up a picture of the pope and saying, “fight the real enemy” without giving context did not help the case.

b000urns,
@b000urns@lemmy.world avatar

I’d say it was fairly well known lol Not widely publicised and discussed perhaps

Got_Bent,

I was in college and saw her do it live. I thought it was strange, but had no idea what grandiose aftermath there would be.

jesterraiin,

It’s yet another case of religion rejecting one of its own, when they misbehave, even though the very same religion explicitly says to not do so, and provides the examples of its founder and prominent figures showed compassion to the rejected ones.

But, of course, who would actually stop and act according to what he allegedly believes in? Ahahahahaahaa, what a preposterous idea…

BangelaQuirkel,

I would. But I’m not religious so that doesn’t count I guess.

scarabic,

Just being religious isn’t enough to turn me against someone. Mind you I hate modern Christianity with a passion, but mainly because it is so hypocritical and oppressive. If Christians were actually Christ-like, the way they’re supposed to be (and some actually are, like Jimmy Carter) then I’d have no problem with them.

OwlPaste, to random in A Dublin man appeared in court completely nude and refused to wear clothes after his "emotional support" cat went missing during a traffic stop arrest.

Why is “emotional support” is in quotes? My cat is an important family member. If she goes missong you can bet il be spending all my free time from work looking her. As well as take whatever holidays i can.

themeatbridge,

Because it’s a quote. That’s what he called his cat. The author can’t say for sure that it’s an emotional support animal, but the owner claimed it, so it goes in quotes. That’s how journalists normally operate.

baru, to world in Israel warns Ireland over calls to break trade links

Don’t forget this bit from the article:

Trade Policy is an exclusive competence of the European Union. The legal basis for Ireland’s and the EU’s trade relations with Israel is the EU-Israel Association Agreement, which entered into force in June 2000.

ObviouslyNotBanana, to world in Israel warns Ireland over calls to break trade links
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

“Israel warns Ireland” has some “Russia warns” vibes.

TheBat, to world in Israel warns Ireland over calls to break trade links
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Labour leader Ivana Bacik told her party’s conference: “Now is the time for Ireland to break diplomatic and trade links with Israel.”

Do it Ireland 🇮🇪

khannie,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

They probably won’t cut off diplomatic ties. There were a lot of calls to do it with Russia in 2022 after the Russian ambassador was interviewed on state TV and made an absolute show of himself and enraged the nation. There were months long protests outside the Russian embassy including constant red paint on the walls and one lad who drove his van through the gates.

At the time I wrote to the minister supporting the expulsion and was told it’s important to keep doors open yada yada.

DevCat, to world in Israel warns Ireland over calls to break trade links
@DevCat@lemmy.world avatar

Attempting to disrupt trade between our two democratic states

Since when was Israel democratic? Bibi and Likud have certainly made every effort to turn it into a theocratic totalitarian state.

Letstakealook, to world in Israel warns Ireland over calls to break trade links

Fuck Israel. The world should be making them a pariah state.

Revan343,

There should be heavily armed boots on the ground, wearing pretty blue helmets and outnumbering the IDF, and Netanyahu should be in a cell or under a pile of rubble.

But the things that should happen won’t, because the largest military power in the world is A-OK with genocide against brown people, as long as it lets them keep their military foothold in the region

Letstakealook,

I’m aware of the reality, must very frustrated with it.

Zer0_F0x, to world in Israel warns Ireland over calls to break trade links

I agree with the Israeli spokesperson. “Targeting uninvolved parties” is their thing, Ireland can’t just storm in by force and appropriate it, that’s also Israel’s thing

deegeese, to world in Israel warns Ireland over calls to break trade links

Democracy is not a get-out-of-jail card for genocide.

thefartographer,

I’m from the US of A and that statement counts as a terrorist attack

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