Your people died under that flag while engaging in armed action against the Union, fighting for the side that wanted to preserve and enshrine slavery. You know, just in case anyone was misled by your bullshit, Chism.
Yup yup.The Rebel Flag is a modern invention of racists, it was never officially flown in battle or otherwise. The one it was based on was square, making it a different flag, and only flew over one company in the Confederacy. Most Confederate soldiers wouldn't have even recognized it. Didn't have to, there were many Confederate flags but only one union flag. They only needed to recognize the one.
Yeah, those fuckers killed men in the US Army. To preserve slavery. And then the officer corps and political leaders weren't executed at the end of the war like they should have been. John Brown got it worse for being a hero.
Absolutely. 40 acres and a mule. Along with the vote. During reconstruction many people in government were freedmen. Can you imagine what our country would be like now if that continued?
These racist fascists really have fucked things over
At the time, the state senator falsely claimed that an “African American Confederate soldier” had designed the flag. “I can only imagine how proud he was that his art, his flag design was chosen to represent our State and now we want to strip him of his pride, his hard work. I’m sure he put a lot of thought into this design,” Chism wrote in a June 2020 Facebook post.
In fact, a white supremacist lawmaker, Sen. Edward N. Scudder of Issaquena County, designed the 1894 flag. In a 1924 speech to the United Daughters of the Confederacy, his daughter Fayssoux Scudder Corneil explained his motives for designing the flag: “My father loved the memory of the valor and courage of those brave men who wore the gray … and has always taken keen interest in the reunions where he could meet and mingle with those of the Lost Cause. He told me that it was a simple matter for him to design the flag because he wanted to perpetuate in a legal and lasting way that dear battle flag under which so many of our people had so gloriously fought.”
Mississippi entered the Civil War in an effort to protect the institution of slavery, as the the state’s Declaration of Secession explains. Chism’s county, Union County, was formed in 1870—the same year Mississippi was readmitted to the Union.
Is this a common white nationalist conspiracy theory, that a black man designed the flag? First I ever heard of it, and I'll feel very differently about her if this was simple bullshit or if it's her buying into some kind of Nazi propaganda. I have different contempt organs for liars and cultists.
It's... hard to really interpret what the intent is of it. Are they trying to "trick" progressives into thinking the flag isn't a celebration of a bygone rebellion-with-intent-to-keep-black-people-as-property? Even if a black person had made it, it would not change the need to abolish it and cast out all who love it from civil society It has deep, unquestionable symbolic meaning as an celebration of unjust rebellion and racism.
And ALSO, she's wiping out a piece of "white history" in the process. Very weird thing for a white supremacist to be doing.
I have to just assume that Kathy Chism's really, really gullible and parrots random factoids she hears credulously and without critical thinking. Which is definitely closest to the truth, but man. It's just so much dumber than I expect even from a Nazi.
I try to explain this to people and they look at me like I’m a madman. The civil war never ended because we allowed their leaders to live and continue planting their seeds of bigotry.
This is an excellent explainer of the mechanisms by which people have been limiting the 14th Amendment since it was passed right after the Civil War “ended”. It’s both a promising law and tragic how it’s been abused.
Lincoln went disgustingly soft on reconstruction, Johnson destroyed it.
Honestly Lincoln cared far more about getting the country together than he did about ending slavery, or attempting to integrate these new freed persons into society. Several times he seriously suggested sending them off to some island to colonize it themselves so he wouldn’t have to deal with it.
Also I’d highly encourage anyone to read “Black Reconstruction in America” by Dr. W.E.B. DuBois if you’re interested in this kind of thing.
Recolonization was Lincoln’s orignal opinion. But by the end of it all, and after speaking to Fredrick Douglass, Lincoln’s opinion changed. His final address he talked about integration of Freedmen. Upon hearing these words, John Wilkes Booth decided to up his time table and assassinate Lincoln that very night.
From all my readings, there is one thing common across all of the greatest US presidents, and that is their ability to change their opinions when they were wrong.
It’s no coincidence that Atlanta is the place in the former confederacy with its shit the most together. Mississippi would be a Shangri-La if Sherman hadn’t stopped
What culture - owning slaves? What heritage - losing wars they started? Fuck Tate Reeves and fuck Confederate traitors who don’t remember the last shit-kicking they got.
What’s insane is that the Confederacy was only around for around 4 years, yet they claim this is the cornerstone of their ‘heritage’ well over 150 years later.
I made a comment about this the other day. It’s as dumb as me walking around with an Italian flag as an American that has Italian ancestry, but my family has been here for over 100 years… There’s nothing Italian about me lol
It feels good knowing that no matter how awful my state is, no matter how far i fall, no matter how shitty life might be, at least I’m not in Mississippi.
I love how all of the AGs that signed Fitche’s letter were all males and not a single woman. Not surprising at all. A bunch of ultra-conservative men trying to takes us back to the times when women couldn’t vote or have a bank account by themselves. Kind of disgusting if you ask me.
I entirely think Germany is right and I even think that works within the frame of the First Amendment because overt racism is an implicit (and even sometimes explicit) threat of violence, which is already not legal. It just needs justices uncorrupt enough to see it that way. Unfortunately, we do not have those justices right now.
I don’t trust America not to find a way to twist it and use it against other speech though.
Germany has a real strong “No more Nazis” thing going after what happened to it.
They’re using that to continue to support Israel killing Palestinian children though so I would say that the sentiment behind those laws is already being used in a bad way.
I did just have this thought though so feel free to tear into it.
You know they already do, right? There is speech that is not protected by 1A. As a society, we can clearly set those rules without doing a slippery slope (which for the record is a fallacy and not a poignant argument).
Without getting into it, that site seems really fucky. I mean north carolina is ahead of new york and cali somehow. It’s also vastly over estimating Mississippi, that place is famous for being bad.
I think it’s about marketing, if they don’t spread their bigotry it’ll die out. That’s why conservatives are in constant fear of education and letting their kids go off to colleges where they can learn about alternative paths than hate and fear.
It wouldn't be a violation, it would just require due process -- a subpoena or warrant. This is why the DOH is proposing a rule change to prevent sharing of this kind of information entirely.
I never understood states rights and how separating our country into 50 different little countries is a good thing. It puts states at odds and forces the US Judicial system into having to decide. Putting the law deciding back into the hands of the federal government.
Isn’t the whole point that if someone doesn’t agree with the laws of the state they reside they can go to a state that does? It would seem needing to find out who gets an abortion or gender-affirming outside of your state is nobody’s worry. Those people are doing the exact thing conservatives want.
Does Mississippi plan on charging people in other states of committing a crime? Is it to make sure a Mississippi resident doesn’t cross a state border? If so, why? What intentions would the state of Mississippi have with this info if not to prosecute?
It's because each distinct sovereign state has its own challenges that can't be solved by one blanket overall federal system. The governing challenges that let's say California has are different from the governing challenges Vermont has.
Colonialism had a lot to do with how the governments were organized, so as each colony developed through authorization from England, they had the freedom to govern themselves within certain limitations from The Crown. Each colony developed similar legislatures, based on bicameralism (upper & lower chamber), governor, and then courts. When the Continental Congress came together they recognized each government equally. So there's solid historical reasoning behind why each state is considered their own country.
There was a huge debate at the beginning of the U.S. that eventually realized a combination of Federalism, and individual State Sovereignty. Initially, the Articles of Confederation left a messy system quite like you describe. Yet each state had their own commerce law, would charge fees to cross borders, etc. That system worked terribly due to the fact there was no strong central authority to resolve state differences, so it was scrapped towards a more federalized system that gave stronger power to a central federal government to solve problems, and still left the states enough legal room to govern themselves...The Constitution.
I appreciate the reply but I just don’t see why states need different laws. The time period cited for the need was 250 years ago. I guess that is the conservative modus operandi.
I’m just not convinced that Mississippi having different, worse, healthcare laws is better for the people who live there. Mississippi is choosing to shit their pants, but as a country we all share the smell. Conservatives want to sit in their soiled pants, or the smell, and the rest of us will are horrified.
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