Didn't think this would happen, but #Lemmy is now the 2nd most popular server software on the #Fediverse and is on the verge of cracking 400,000 accounts.
I'm actually shocked that it blew past #Misskey so quickly because the Misskey migration took three months to hit 300,000 accounts.
With all the drama happening elsewhere on the Fediverse, it important to remember that this is the biggest growth we've experienced in six months!
@atomicpoet this is also an excellent example of how misplaced the cancer mentality behind the «let the open protocol busting corporation responsible for genocide is so that we can see the number to up quickly» is.
@oblomov Okay, but Lemmy is quite controversial. Their reputation as tankies has resulted in the flagship server finding itself on multiple Fediblocks. And this is also a big reason why some people are blatantly pushing Kbin as an alternative instead of Lemmy.
I've personally had a lot of people get very upset with me for allowing people to set up Lemmy servers with SpaceHost. If some people had their way, all Lemmy instances would be Fediblocked.
And yet, Lemmy is still popular -- despite purist protestations.
@atomicpoet the main difference is that the Lemmy developers are not responsible for how individual Lemmy instances are managed, which is why they're instances get fediblocked, but most others are not just in the ground on them being Lemmy instances. Meta is responsible about their servers, and we do know how they operate. Lemmy developers also don't have any power to do the kind of protocol busting Meta has done with XMPP and has interest in doing with ActivityPub.
@oblomov@atomicpoet Lemmy developers are the ones with the tankie reputation, and they run the flagship server. Which is why so many people are up in arms about Lemmy itself and are pushing Kbin.
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet the point is that they are responsible only for their instance, not anybody else's. And yes, there's a strong push to use kbin over Lemmy, but lemmy instances don't get defederated simply for being Lemmy instances.
The Meta situation is different. They are responsible for their instance, and have a track record of being bad actors.
@atomicpoet Reddit has a different userbase, it’s focused on the posts rather than the poster.
And the userbase is massive, so 1M users here and there can show up. What stops people is lack of content (I’m trying kbin and it’s a ghost town for the categories I’m interested in).
For microblogging I can’t keep up with even a few hundred people. I need to prune:(
@atomicpoet
I can attest that most of that growth are former Redditors. I'm one of them. I built both a mastodon and lemmy instance for myself and so others can use it. This is how big sites that make stupid decisions die.
@atomicpoet I don't know why that's so shocking, Chris. We've both agreed that groups were the future of the fediverse because they provide instant community, sometimes from the popularity of a single thread. Not for nothing is Meta probably calling their product, "Threads."
Masto and Misskey both dawdled for years on implementing groups, thinking the streaming-id ephemera of microblogging was the primary core activity and product of a "community," and kept building new ones with different topical themes and populations. But now the Redditor migration is proving that 1) communities can erupt from a single post, gain critical mass, and become a community, and 2) moving a community is a lot easier when it has a leader. Instance admins rarely have specific subject authority so they can only lead their housing project itself. Then can rarely lead the people with the many specific sub-interests that any community will have. Groupware like Lemmy and Kbin are much better at instant community, so it stands to reason that Redditors would recognize those solutions as the best way to house their refugee communities. As so they've been instantly sprouting like weeds. This is why, as you know, I've been pushing groups to @kainoa and others for months. But they're just a few developers, already swamped with tasks. We have to find more so we can be more competitive. Now that Meta is coming, and with more programmers than we have users, it won't be sluggish about implementing all or most of the features developed with our blood, sweat and tears.
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