StillIRise1963,
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You know, when I look back on my life, I think it is utterly fucking amazing that for most of it, I had to literally argue with people as to the actual EXISTENCE of racism in this confederate ass hellhole. My whole fucking LIFE in white spaces. Holy hell. It's hard to be sane in this bitch, I'll tell you that.

Okanogen,
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@StillIRise1963
It's infuriating that people don't understand that the White working class went from supporting unionism, Social Security, the New Deal, Great Society, and other Dem causes because they started seeing Democrats as the party of Black people. Their racism is ignored by DSA, Bernie Sanders, "Progressives", media and commentators who also hate the Dem party, and for the same reason, tbh.

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StillIRise1963,
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@FrankFrank I sure as fuck do.🙄

Oggie,
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@StillIRise1963 @FrankFrank honestly they still seem to struggle with this. 'He seems to have made some remarks that some people are interpeting as racist, like when he said to kill all the people with darker skins. Let's talk to our panel about how he could have just meant those who go out into the sun a lot!'

And the camera turns to 4 people, all white, who proceed to disparage anyone taking it seriously, or any effects from it, or what is racism anyway.

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@Oggie @StillIRise1963 @FrankFrank
The entire fucking "Trump voters in a diner" trope became a trope out of the sheer determination of white reporters not to admit that Trumpism is about racism.

"We must 'understand' these voters by deliberately refusing to understand them." -white editors who quasi-secretly agree with the racism

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@MaryAustinBooks @Oggie @StillIRise1963 @FrankFrank "I've watched Trump openly discriminate against people of color, encourage police brutality, and take it a full page ad in favor of lynching. If Trump is a racist than I am for sure too" - society

Jeanpaul,
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@FrankFrank @StillIRise1963 wait! The do now? Never seen it …Ever…. Anywhere… except on social media …

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @FrankFrank This says it all. What more does one need.
    @Jeanpaul

    steveo1049,
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    Wasn’t that yesterday? @FrankFrank @StillIRise1963

    Aphrodite,
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    @StillIRise1963

    it’s frustrating when one can’t q-white get certain folks to recognize that regardless of name, all bigotry’s the same, just another mask worn by pain.

    because bigotry is the choice to inflict pain on others & self, and trying to end run “and self” by designating some cohort of humans as not fully or not at all human.

    it’s why bigotry moves laterally near effortlessly & why one who can hate one eventually can hate all including self.

    in theory anyways.

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @FrankFrank That's the big lie people should be talking about.

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat Yeah, the cover up was well done. I started going to Spain in 1985. I had to fight fuckers there too! Telling me racism didn't exist. I swear to god, my friends didn't really believe me in a way until Katrina. They all called saying "oh, shit."

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat Yep. I desegregated part of CA. 🙄

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat Yeah, so many qualifications are necessary.

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat Or, in the grocery stores where purses are grabbed and moved to the other side.

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat I feel every part of what you just said. I don't want your fucking shit, I have my own, racist asshole.🙄 When I was young, I said many things to people. I scared the shit out of my parents. But, fuck that.

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat Yep. This fucking place is full of all types of stories in all different types of locations and situations. I want to do so many things with what I've seen. It overwhelms.

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    @thepoliticalcat Same. I'm trying. I've only reached the stage of my life now where I can. I'm not in the middle of it anymore, I've had some time time to think, access the effects of all of it to the extent I'm capable of at this juncture. But, I'm much more capable than before.

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat We really are. My experience was so fucking weird, I've never met anyone who had it the same. At least, yet.

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    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963

    Remember Jackson.

    The organisers of the protests were gradually murdered over the next few years, as well as the 60-year-old curator of the museum of Black History, whose body was found in the trunk of her car.

    The stories need to be told, but be discrete about it, so you don't get deliberately targetted.

    obeto,
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    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 Man! That's just eff'd up!

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat Of course. No police. There's NEVER been a time in American history when that was a good idea for Black people.
    @obeto

    ATLeagle,
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    @StillIRise1963 @thepoliticalcat @obeto I ran my car into a black woman's car. My fault. I knew I put her in a spot of having a report makes insurance easier, but requires cops. I left it up to her and she had to trust that I would report to my insurance correctly. I did, but it really left her in a spot. Definitely not the thing white people like me normally have to consider

    StillIRise1963,
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    @ATLeagle Yep. It's a mine field out there. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
    @thepoliticalcat @obeto

    obeto,
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    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 I didn't get it for nearly 15 years after I came here.

    I was living in a bubble because of work and my neighborhoods until I got the dreaded, "Is this your car?" question.

    The followup questions to my affirmative answers jogged my out of my happy place: "Are you a drug dealer?, and "How can you live there? (Corona del Mar").

    I was renting, and this was in Huntington Beach.

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    @thepoliticalcat Whenever my mom answered the door, white people always asked for the "lady of the house." Even me in NYC. People thought I was a cleaner in my building. Also, my kid's nanny.
    @obeto

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    @thepoliticalcat My husband is white. I'll get stuck in customs. When he comes over to find out wtf, they wave me through. I could go on for quite awhile about the feelings I have surrounding this.🙄 @obeto

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  • RnDanger,

    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 @obeto
    One time my wife and I were taking a border shuttle into Mexico. We're white, most people in the van were not. We took some seats at the front of the crowded 15 passenger van next to an older lady. At a couple of the ICE checkpoints they just saw 2 white people in a row and assumed whatever about the third person in the dark van and I could tell it bothered her that they didn't ask for ID.

    When we got into Mexico she was very happy and bought us a round of mini Coca-Cola bottles.

    obeto,
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    @StillIRise1963 @thepoliticalcat A guy peddling shit once got into my subdivision, rang my doorbell, and asked me, "Do you live here?".

    A few years ago, as I documented it on hellsite birdsite.

    I still can't believe that all I did was slam the door in his face.

    Maybe because I am older now or something.

    StillIRise1963,
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    @obeto Yep. No one is immune. Nothing matters, no one sees you, they see Black.
    @thepoliticalcat

    obeto,
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    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 That said, apart from that Latino cop, and a Black Alabama cop some 14 years earlier, all of the police interactions I have had after that have been thankfully cordial.

    I thank God for that.

    StillIRise1963,
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    @obeto My greatest nightmare is getting stopped.
    @thepoliticalcat

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    @thepoliticalcat Yep. It all makes me so sick. All the extra vigilance is exhausting. I wonder what life is like without it.
    @obeto

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    @thepoliticalcat I can't even imagine. It's like having twins. Can't imagine what only one at a time is like. @obeto

    obeto,
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    @StillIRise1963 @thepoliticalcat When my oldest first started jogging at around 13, I would drive behind him in our gated subdivision because I didn't want some racist neighbor to call the cops on "a Black man running in the neighborhood!".

    He was already 6'1"+ and it could have devolved into something else.

    StillIRise1963,
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    @obeto Yep. You have to be very careful. All the time, forever and everywhere.
    @thepoliticalcat

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    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 I avoid the South.

    All the time.

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    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 Mix in "very disrespectful to Black customers", and you have described staffers at Southern hotels perfectly.

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  • obeto,
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    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 Aah! Got it now. 😂

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  • obeto,
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    @thepoliticalcat It worked.

    Me, I have given up trying to be civil to them.

    They don't deserve our civility, empathy, respect, and heaven forbid, love and affection.

    Eff them!

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    @thepoliticalcat LOL

    For the readership.

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    @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 I am certain that some people think we're being too sensitive, or worse: making shit up.

    StillIRise1963,
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    @obeto I make it my business not to go. below the Mason/Dixon line unless there's no other option. When there, I try to control my mouth/face.
    @thepoliticalcat

    roo_44,
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    @StillIRise1963 @obeto @thepoliticalcat

    Old joke(that not a joke):

    What’s the difference between the South and the Midwest?

    In the South they give you the courtesy to let you know they’er racist to your face.

    StillIRise1963,
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    @roo_44 Yep. The Northeast is full of mind fuckery. Lots of Puritan gaslighting, trying to make people think it's them, that they're inadequate as individuals, instead of racism.
    @obeto @thepoliticalcat

    obeto,
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    @StillIRise1963 @roo_44 @thepoliticalcat Remember the bastard who murdered his wife in Boston?

    The police, and indeed, the entire community response over there, exposed their racism.

    ALL Black men and their families were targeted, and some were already jailed as suspects.

    StillIRise1963,
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    @obeto I absolutely remember that. I had big doubts when that was going on. Just like Susan Smith and her two kids. What Black car jacker wants to kidnap some white kids.🙄 @roo_44 @thepoliticalcat

    obeto,
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    @StillIRise1963 @thepoliticalcat As it is with ALL Black Americans.

    No matter if you're driving, walking, hiking, or biking.

    Even the unborn.

    StillIRise1963,
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    @obeto Yep. Anything can happen with those fuckers.
    @thepoliticalcat

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    obeto,
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    @roo_44 @thepoliticalcat @StillIRise1963 was so stunned, I kept apologizing to him.

    StillIRise1963,
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    @obeto It's always stunning in your face, because it's so unbelievably wrong. It's assaulting. It can even be hard to wrap your brain around.

    @roo_44 @thepoliticalcat

    Pineywoozle,
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    @thepoliticalcat Sad but smart. A bud & I were walk-in in Tx & this group of frat boys kept hitting on us. (We weren’t interested, they didn’t care) Mignon waved at a friend across the street & it dawned on the racist pricks that she wasn’t just a pretty girl with a tan… One of them spit at her. Fucking hell. I can’t even imagine dealing with that crap 24/7 I left those cunts metaphorically bleeding because l have the privilege to do that & not end up actually bleeding myself. @StillIRise1963

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    @thepoliticalcat I’m glad they were comfortable enough with you to warn and I’m glad you stood up to begin with even thoughI know they were right. I wish more white people understood how much this shit is on us to end. All of our unearned privilege should come with an obvious to everyone price that we willingly pay till there is no more inequality. @StillIRise1963

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    @thepoliticalcat If you ask me what I think, I'll tell you. Even if you don't ask, my face will tell you what I think😃 @Pineywoozle

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  • StillIRise1963,
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    @thepoliticalcat 😁 Me too. And, I probably didn't even hear all the stupid because my brain shut off after a few sentences. 🤣
    @Pineywoozle

    Pineywoozle,
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    @thepoliticalcat I kind of already knew that. 😉 It’s part of why I love yas.😜 @StillIRise1963

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  • Pineywoozle,
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    @thepoliticalcat I think that’s part of my reputation. 🤣 👍

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