beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar

“Though it seemed completely automated, Just Walk Out relied on more than 1,000 people in India watching and labeling videos to ensure accurate checkouts. The cashiers were simply moved off-site, and they watched you as you shopped.” https://gizmodo.com/amazon-reportedly-ditches-just-walk-out-grocery-stores-1851381116

[removes glasses; pinches bridge of nose; sighs until the heat death of the universe]

beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar

when Silicon Valley says “innovation,” it’s okay to mentally swap in “rendering labor invisible, while visiting new levels of precariousness and harm on the workers who perform it”

it’s a few more syllables, but i think it generally still scans

zdl,
@zdl@mastodon.online avatar

@beep The only "innovation" that has come out of Silly Con Valley in the past two decades has been innovative ways to screw people over for money.

markllobrera,
@markllobrera@mastodon.social avatar

@beep Just pick the size of trenchcoat, starting at XXXL

stubbornella,
@stubbornella@front-end.social avatar

@beep “disruption” equals breaking systems (and people) you never bothered to understand

keithjgrant,
@keithjgrant@front-end.social avatar

@stubbornella @beep That and/or vaguely redefining things in order to dodge regulations

beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar
beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar

“[Bezos’ wealth] is the result of deliberately hiding actual work – designing, making, sorting, packing, cooking, farming, delivering – behind little icons on your smartphone screen, in order to devalue it. It is the systematic use of the fake robot trick to lower the value of labour, until people are reportedly sleeping in tents at the factory gates, then banking the difference.”

Short, searing post from James Bridle on the real, human costs of automation: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/10/amazon-ai-cashier-less-shops-humans-technology

jessamyn,
@jessamyn@glammr.us avatar

@beep Oh that is so good.

"The size of Bezos’s rocket is very precisely determined by the difference in costs between paying a worker in Britain and a worker in India – including all the historically determined racist and colonialist inequality that calculation involves."

beep,
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@jessamyn Every single graf is just exquisite, I’m real grateful to the friend who shared it with me.

rrmutt,
@rrmutt@mastodon.social avatar

@beep @jessamyn Deserved praise for @jamesbridle

trochee,
@trochee@dair-community.social avatar

@rrmutt

OMG did not know that @jamesbridle was on here

This makes me very happy; thanks!

astrid,
@astrid@fedi.astrid.tech avatar

@beep why does this keep happening 💀

cocoa,
@cocoa@moth.zone avatar

@astrid @beep Because the idea is that in theory, you can use the manually labeled data to apply machine learning to it.

The problem is that's not always a thing that works.

astrid,
@astrid@fedi.astrid.tech avatar

@cocoa @beep oh I know how machine learning works

What I mean is just that so many times when a company advertises it's AI, it's actually just people behind the scenes. Like there was this one robot food delivery company on college campuses that turned out to just be people in the Philippines remotely piloting the robots

cocoa,
@cocoa@moth.zone avatar

@astrid @beep It's because they already pitched the idea to investors and are cornered in having to deliver a product despite the technology not working.

They're forced to play Mechanical Turk to keep the investors happy.

mightyspaceman,
@mightyspaceman@aus.social avatar

@beep Amazon has grocery stores? This is news to me.

jenbanim,
@jenbanim@mastodo.neoliber.al avatar

@beep Relevant Far Side

exchgr,
@exchgr@mastodon.world avatar

@beep good god, is there any automation which is not of the potemkin variety?

beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar

@exchgr [unfurls massive scroll, which just has “NAH” written on it in massive letters] …well, let’s see here, hm

blogdiva,
@blogdiva@mastodon.social avatar

@beep it's always about labor, as in NOT PAYING AMERICAN WORKERS and finding bargain basement indentured workers they can exploit elsewhere.

beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar

@blogdiva Oof, I hear you. I might just add that there are legions of contracted tech workers here in the states, too. (I was lucky enough to speak with some for the book, even.) To a person, they all told me how dehumanizing their working conditions were, and how much anxiety it made them feel.

Anyway, that’s just to say it’s exactly like you said: it’s always about labor. And it just ain’t right.

💜

Haste,
@Haste@mastodon.social avatar

@beep here’s an interesting detail. This paragraph was altered after publication:

“Instead, Amazon is reportedly moving towards Dash Carts… These offer a more reliable solution than Just Walk Out, whose impressive technology was truly ahead of its time.”

This was despite their own findings. I wonder how that slipped through.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240402144834/https://gizmodo.com/amazon-reportedly-ditches-just-walk-out-grocery-stores-1851381116

onpaperwings,
@onpaperwings@typo.social avatar

@beep Such a predictable SIGH

zachleat,
@zachleat@zachleat.com avatar

@beep oh my god

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