mcc, (edited )
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I twice made, then deleted, a post about the Tik Tok ban being signed into law. I deleted it the first time because the bill was less bad than I described the first time and deleted it the second time because it was worse than I described the second time. I made myself a promise I wouldn't try to do like real-time Posting About Politics on Mastodon and I'm kinda breaking my rules.

However I'm really, really angry about this bill so I will make a third attempt

EDIT: Bleh https://mastodon.social/@mcc/112327478848274607

Catawu,
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@mcc the Tik Tok part was the baby in the bath water. But it can be overcome, undone, as soon as a responsive and educated congress is elected. I’d like to see laws that stopped ALL companies from harvesting our personal data and selling it to 3rd parties or sharing with govts, foreign or domestic. I see the T T ban as a temporary inconvenience that will be overcome by popular demand in the very near future.

tsrono,
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@mcc i am curious to hear takes on this from legit, in-depth reporting, maybe some sharing of sources like that could be good

mcc,
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@tsrono If I make a post it will be grounded in the bill text (see: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/815/text#toc-HA3ED19E8F4F24124B4029233F64B1549 divisions H and I, and referred USC section https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/4872). This is part of why I don't want to leave something up unless I'm completely certain about it.

msbellows,
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@mcc @tsrono I saw an earlier post, and would respectfully suggest you not blame Biden so starkly when you repost. Congress is who just banned TikTok, not Biden. Biden received a bill that combined a TikTok ban with aid to Ukraine and had to choose whether or not to sign it, and he chose to save thousands of lives and preserve the very existence of an ally endangered by fascism. I would say that's the right call.

mcc,
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@msbellows @tsrono I am absolutely going to blame Joe Biden.

Biden stated he would sign the standalone version of this bill and this is not a case of accepting a compromise to get some other thing. It is Joe Biden signing a bill with several things he supports. https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4519788-biden-says-hell-sign-bill-that-could-ban-tiktok-if-congress-passes-it/

msbellows,
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@mcc @tsrono Understood, but Biden also revoked Trump's outright TikTok ban, then negotiated with Congress to make it more focused on actual risks rather than blind-panic "omg the Commies will brainwash or kidnap my babiez!" hysteria. If TikTok survives, it'll be because of Biden. https://www.dwt.com/blogs/media-law-monitor/2021/10/biden-tiktok-executive-order

mcc,
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@msbellows @tsrono I mean, it's still quite explicitly a ban on TikTok, the company at least.

tsrono,
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@mcc @msbellows i’m curious to see how the courts side on this, i’ll say that’s all i know for certain right now. part of me wonders if Congressional/Presidential push on this is expecting the courts to temper the decision ultimately…and the courts may bring some of the behind-the-scenes data to light as to why this is going through at all. anything getting widely bipartisan support right now perks my ears up as to what all is really going on.

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