gsuberland, (edited )
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excuse me WHAT

JLC are doing five 8L boards for... ONE POUND AND SIXTY PENCE

Toble_Miner,
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@gsuberland That is pretty close to the cost of just the gold used for plating both outer layers if you were to order the boards with fully exposed 50x50mm ENIG coating on both sides

jaseg,
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@gsuberland Capped vias are free on 4L/6L at the moment too. I guess they have some investment money to spend again, this time on aggressively going after their higher-end competition.

f4grx,
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@jaseg @gsuberland Capped vias are a lovely technique to increase board density.

jpm,
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@gsuberland oh, that also includes 0.09 trace and space, epoxy filled vias (but smaller than 0.3 drill is extra as normal), AND 2u ENIG finish!

gsuberland,
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@jpm yeah absolutely bonkers

jpm,
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@gsuberland 50x50mm size limit, which is a bit cramped but still very usable. The pain comes when you try to get them to do assembly, because their minimum assembly dimensions are 70x70

gsuberland,
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@jpm yeah, I'm guessing they're making the promo affordable by batch panelling folks' stuff together, hence the limits.

jpm,
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@gsuberland oh they probably do that for everything they make, not just the 6+ layer, it wouldn’t make sense otherwise. Also why they charge more for expedited 24-hour manufacturing

jpm,
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@gsuberland yep, I got a run of 6L boards for AU$5 delivered about a month ago. Their slow and cheap shipping is being delivered to .au in about a week and a half at the moment.

jpm,
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@gsuberland here’s the boards I got done with that promo a month ago. 0.4mm pitch BGA - yes the lands have been a bit squished so I could fan out the inner pads ON THE SAME LAYER. The only 2 I couldn’t fan out were C3 and D4

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f4grx,
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@jpm @gsuberland With tentend vias!?

jpm,
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@f4grx @gsuberland sure, why not. My hand-soldering SMT skills suck

f4grx,
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@jpm @gsuberland nah, if you dare the bga, your soldering skills dont suck lol

It'm just happily surprised you can get tented vias for that price. thats very inexpensive.

jpm,
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@f4grx @gsuberland really? Tented vias are standard-issue at all the cheap fab houses I thought?

jpm,
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@f4grx @gsuberland and I figure the only way to get competent, and eventually good, at SMT soldering anything, is to just accept the fact that you’ll fuck it up at first and learn from what fucked up. The main BGA part here is only $5 each, and the first 5 boards I did ended up with a couple of bridges each but none that completely prevented any of them from working

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