foone,
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Why is the Bart diesel? Do they not have electricity in the bay area?

foone,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

Okay apparently they are mostly electric, I just managed to misread the Wikipedia. Carry on, BART

ids1024,
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@foone You may be underestimating how weird the diesel part is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBART extends an existing BART line with 9.1 miles of track, using diesel trains and standard gauge track. It has just a transfer station and two new stations. This was not existing track or anything, it was built specifically to extend an existing line, because it's apparently cheaper than electrifying a 9 mile extension?

Want to go from "Pitsburg / Bay Point" to "Pitsburg Center"? One stop, but change train.

1000millimeter,
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1000millimeter,
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@ids1024 @foone This would have been THE usecase for electric trains with linitrd battery coverage. 9 miles is absolutely doable today.

wonka,
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@1000millimeter https://www.erixx-holstein.de/unternehmen/akku-fahrzeuge/ uses FLIRT AKKU (https://stadlerrail.com/en/flirt-akku/details/), with a claimed range of 150km, and they run fine for months now.

@ids1024 @foone

gsuberland,
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@foone presumably they're diesel-electric? if so for any electrified areas they can run without the diesel. no idea if any of it is electrified though.

curtosis,
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@gsuberland @foone Most diesel-electrics can’t do this by default; they have to be specifically built as dual-mode. NJ Transit, LIRR, and Amtrak/Metro-North operate some to cover more exurban stretches out of the city.

gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

@curtosis @foone oh, weird. I guess I'm just used to dual-mode being a default thing 'cos it's all my dad designed for 40-something years at Brush Traction.

eichin,
@eichin@mastodon.mit.edu avatar

@foone all the stories I keep hearing about PG&E make it sound like no, they don't...

foone,
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@eichin good point. We probably don't want to trade any more towns for having bart be electric

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