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protonprivacy

@protonprivacy@mastodon.social

A better internet starts with privacy & freedom.

Take control of your data with #ProtonMail, #ProtonCalendar, #ProtonVPN, #ProtonDrive, and #ProtonPass.

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BrideOfLinux, to random
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"As part of an investigation into people involved in the pro-independence movement in Catalonia, the Spanish police obtained information from the encrypted services Wire and Proton, which helped the authorities identify a pseudonymous activist, according to court documents obtained by TechCrunch": Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/08/encrypted-services-apple-proton-and-wire-helped-spanish-police-identify-activist/

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@BrideOfLinux @adingbatponder The individual in this case used their actual apple email as an optional recovery email.

Setting a recovery email is not required and we provide other options for recovery: https://proton.me/support/set-account-recovery-methods

TechCrunch, to random
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Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist https://tcrn.ch/3JQDI07

protonprivacy,
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@stux @TechCrunch Setting a recovery email is optional.

We also provide other optional recovery options outside of email, more on this here: https://proton.me/support/set-account-recovery-methods

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@stux @TechCrunch Nope, once it's gone, it's gone. 👍

1HommeAzerty, to random French
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I know I can import my Firefox passwords into @protonprivacy, but what would be very cool is to be able to sync both. Proton pass has great features but is not as convenient to use as integrated Firefox password manager, even with the plugin installed. (In particular on Android.)

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@1HommeAzerty Thanks for sharing your thoughts, we'll pass on the feature suggestion to the team for future consideration.

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@lemmyreader Yes, the name/address of the terrorism suspect was actually given to police by Apple, not Proton. The terror suspect added their real-life Apple email as an optional recovery address in Proton Mail. Proton can't decrypt data, but in terror cases Swiss courts can obtain recovery email.

cygnathreadbare, to random Spanish
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@protonprivacy: "la legislación suiza nos permite rechazar cualquier orden judicial porque no tenemos obligación legal de almacenar logs, no almacenamos logs de nada, protegemos tus datos como dice nuestra FAQ."

Also @protonprivacy: Bueno a ver tu email alternativo no son "datos", no? Además eres activista de algo que no le gusta a tu gobierno, se siente jeje <enviando datos, borrando la frase sobre no almacenar logs de la FAQ>.

protonprivacy,
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@cygnathreadbare You seem to confusing Proton VPN with Proton Mail. Proton VPN is no-logs as has been proven in independent audits and in court (https://protonvpn.com/blog/transparency-report - we don't have any info to share with law enforcement).

Proton Mail, being a communication service, is legislated differently, and we have always been clear what data we can and cannot protect, see: https://proton.me/legal/privacy and: https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained

posthumouspoet, to random
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@protonprivacy Do you plan to update language on your products to be more clear about what is and isn't encrypted? Also, do you store change logs on your servers? For example, if I remove my recovery email, is it actually deleted, or is it still stored on your servers?

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@posthumouspoet Yes, recovery addresses are only kept as long as they are needed by the owner of the account - as soon as you remove it from your account, it's removed from our systems too. You can also replace it with a different recovery method: https://proton.me/support/set-account-recovery-methods

You can learn what is and is not encrypted here: https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained

Regarding IP logging, you can find the details here: https://proton.me/legal/privacy (they are not logged by default)

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    protonprivacy,
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    @lx We provide an official Proton Mail onion site for use with the Tor network for those seeking anonymity.

    It’s also important to differentiate that VPN is not classified as a communication tool in Switzerland — Proton VPN does not log IPs and there are no existing Swiss laws that can compel us to do so.

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    @lx We provide an official Proton Mail onion site for use with the Tor network for those seeking anonymity.

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    @myrix A recovery email is optional and not required for a Proton account, more here: https://proton.me/support/set-account-recovery-methods

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    @pacogens Hi there, setting a recovery method is optional, more on this here: https://proton.me/support/set-account-recovery-methods

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    @jik @jonah @AIBrain @doomy Setting a recovery email is also optional, more info here: https://proton.me/support/set-account-recovery-methods

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    @jik @jonah @AIBrain @doomy Hi Jonathan, email is just one of several recovery options, rest assured your feedback has been passed along to the team.

    protonprivacy, (edited )
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    @pacogens Thanks for clarifying! We outline this in the first paragraph here: https://proton.me/mail/privacy-policy

    Note that It’s also important to differentiate that VPN is not classified as a communication tool in Switzerland — Proton VPN does not log IPs and there are no existing Swiss laws that can compel us to do so.

    Also, nothing is delivered easily: Swiss law is very restrictive, and there are many hurdles to jump through to get a court order.

    protonprivacy,
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    @leberschnitzel Proton stores minimal data and almost all data is end to end encrypted. You can find details in our privacy policy: https://proton.me/legal/privacy You can also check this article to see which data is stored encrypted and which cannot be: https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained

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    @doomy From a technical perspective, one can't end-to-end encrypt or hash a recovery email as it needs to be accessible to send the recovery email, which is typically initiated by an unauthenticated user who has lost their password. In brief, if we did that, one wouldn't be able to use the recovery address for its intended purpose.

    activeruser, to tech
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    @mullvadnet
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    Is ProtonVPN & Mullvad affected by this attack? I use both of these services on daily basis. If they affected how can I mitigate this?

    https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/05/novel-attack-against-virtually-all-vpn-apps-neuters-their-entire-purpose/

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    @activeruser We've looked into it and here are the results: https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/112411129477213219

    trinux, to marketing Spanish
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    Se le va a ir al peo el a @protonprivacy por el tema .

    protonprivacy,
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    @trinux The name/address of the terrorism suspect was actually given to police by Apple, not Proton. The terror suspect added their real-life Apple email as an optional recovery address in Proton Mail. Proton can't decrypt data, but in terror cases Swiss courts can obtain recovery email.

    Pietrasagh, to random Polish

    Hello @protonprivacy
    Could you comment on this article https://restoreprivacy.com/protonmail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain/ ?

    protonprivacy,
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    @Pietrasagh The name/address of the terrorism suspect was actually given to police by Apple, not Proton. The terror suspect added their real-life Apple email as an optional recovery address in Proton Mail. Proton can't decrypt data, but in terror cases Swiss courts can obtain recovery email.

    Mushi, to random
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    https://restoreprivacy.com/protonmail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain/ anything to say @protonprivacy ?

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    @Mushi The name/address of the terrorism suspect was actually given to police by Apple, not Proton. The terror suspect added their real-life Apple email as an optional recovery address in Proton Mail. Proton can't decrypt data, but in terror cases Swiss courts can obtain recovery email.

    protonprivacy,
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    @Mushi There was no leak, Proton's services are not compromised. The recovery email is not mandatory, as you can see above. Proton stores minimal data and almost all data is encrypted in a way that we cannot access. You can find details in our privacy policy: https://proton.me/legal/privacy

    joeo10, to security
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    Nearly all VPNs are reportedly affected by this 22+ year old vulnerability per researchers at Leviathan. https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/05/novel-attack-against-virtually-all-vpn-apps-neuters-their-entire-purpose/

    I sent my preferred service in ProtonVPN (at @protonprivacy) an email about this and hope they respond to this serious claim. You should do the same for your preferred service (consumer, enterprise, self hosted too).

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    @narunya @joeo10

    We've looked into it, here are the results: https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/112411129477213219

    protonprivacy, to random
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    Proton Pass Monitor is now available!

    ✨ Discover weak and reused passwords
    ✨ Find accounts with inactive 2FA
    ✨ Get breach notifications for emails, aliases, and passwords.

    It may take a little time for Proton Pass Monitor to become available on all platforms, thanks for your patience!

    Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-monitor

    protonprivacy,
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    @jdoe Hi there! We recommend regular backups/exports, check out: https://proton.me/support/pass-export

    protonprivacy,
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    @orocroon Hi! It's planned, but no ETA. Please see our comment here for a more detailed explanation on the status of Proton Pass as a Safari extension: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonPass/comments/1c4s1tg/comment/kzthrmz/

    leoboulton, to random
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    I just read that @standardnotes was acquired by @protonprivacy . I am disappointed given I've been a happy user for over 5 years, with over 800 notes archived privately and used daily.

    I am looking for alternatives, and evaluating @obsidian @cryptee and (which I am very impressed with). Other suggestions, welcomed.

    protonprivacy,
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    @leoboulton Hi Leo, if you have additional info to share on what you were expecting on the roadmap and any issues with our marketing, we can pass it along to the team.

    We have a lot planned for 2024 across all the Proton products, and we're supported solely by subscribers, rather VC investors, advertisers and selling user data.

    You can also filter by 'completed' on User Voice to check out all the implemented community feature requests: https://protonmail.uservoice.com.

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