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Eheran, in 'This is the last opportunity for us to wake up': A leading economist warns we're headed for an AI-driven cataclysm

Acemoglu has written a 546-page treatise that demolishes the Church of Technology, demonstrating how innovation often winds up being harmful to society.

I can only start to imagine how they filled that many pages with… text.

Pons_Aelius,

I can only start to imagine

If the only tool you have is a hammer...you see everything as a nail.

Eheran,

Example: .>A small number of people are going to be on top — they’re going to design and use those technologies — and a very large number of people will only have marginal jobs, or not very meaningful jobs." The result, he fears, is a future of lower wages for most of us.

How is that different to… ever in history? It is a big load of words without meaning.

readbeanicecream, in How Easy Is It to Fool A.I.-Detection Tools?
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A.I. Detection is just as problematic as A.I. generation.

wolfshadowheart, in Startup Stability AI CEO Emad Mostaque Steps Down
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Damn, Emad was one of the only reasons they felt trustworthy to me. I moderated a discord community that he was part of and he felt like the epitome of show your work as a person. From what I could tell he was always very transparent with his work and how and what he wanted it to accomplish.

I expect a significant change in direction for the worse, unfortunately. That said, I hope this is something that is best for him rather than an outsting, and that he can find work in the future.

DarkGamer, (edited ) in Hands-on with Gemini: Interacting with multimodal AI
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This is an impressive demo, it seems like just making training multimodal models approaches the appearance of symbolic understanding. It's a surprise how effective this can be.

Edit: evidently it was faked https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/googles-best-gemini-demo-was-faked/

vluz, in Why it’ll be hard to tell if AI ever becomes conscious
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We know remarkably little about how AI systems work

Every single time I see this argument used, I stop reading.

LollerCorleone,
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Yeah, a better strap-line would have been, "We don’t fully understand human consciousness, so how will we know if AI becomes conscious?"

vluz,
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That is extremely better. It is a very interesting problem, as you put it.

Eheran, in Indeed's CEO says college students might be learning skills that could go 'obsolete' once they graduate — all because of AI

Isn’t it the whole point that you don’t just learn specific actions but the underlying concepts? You don’t just learn how to use a calculator, you also learn what the actual math behind is, specifically such that the tool you use to calculate is irrelevant.

The headline is like expecting someone with knowledge of a 10 year old to be able to work efficiently. What a load of nonsense, just like the other anti-AI article earlier.

NatakuNox, in 'This is the last opportunity for us to wake up': A leading economist warns we're headed for an AI-driven cataclysm
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We are headed to that outcome all by ourselves

nightwatch_admin, in Artificial Intelligence Could Finally Let Us Talk with Animals

Animals: “we are hunted, locked up, tortured, killed and eaten or suffer from poisoned environments.”
Humans: “hur durrr roast beef”

CookieJarObserver, in China aims to replicate human brain in bid to dominate global AI

The first thing it will do is hating communism and then it will be shut down.

AncillaryJustice, in AI that’s smarter than humans? Americans say a firm “no thank you.”
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We’re still waiting on cold fusion and all the graphene miracles. I think AGI is a lonnnng (millenia) way off. Most of these companies say this stuff to get funding, but they know what they call AI is just a very complex parrot. And not the intelligent parts, just the mimicking ones. Nowhere close to AGI.

moormaan, in Princeton University's 'AI Snake Oil' authors say generative AI hype has 'spiraled out of control'

“I approach all of this from a place of optimism. The reason I do tech criticism is because of the belief that things can be better. And if we look at all kinds of past crises, things worked out in the end, but that’s because people worried about them at key moments.” I like the place the article is coming from, and the importance of distinguishing between predictive and generative ID. Of course, the click-bait title (probably crafted by an editor) contains none of the nuance that is present in the article and the interview, but hey, it’s the internet.

Lenguador, in Interview with Inflection AI co-founder and CEO Mustafa Suleyman
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Apparently Inflection AI have bought 22,000 H100 GPUs. The H100 has approximately 4x the compute for transformers as the A100. GPT4 is rumored to be 10x larger than GPT3. GPT3 takes approximately 34 days to train on 1024 A100 GPUs.

So with 22,000*4/1024=85.9375x more compute, they could easily do 10x GPT4 size in 1-2 months. Getting to 100x the size would be feasible but likely they're banking on the claimed speedup of 3x from FlashAttention-2, which would result in about 6 months of training.

It's crazy that these scales and timelines seem plausible.

readbeanicecream, in What are your opinions on Meta developing open-source AI?
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Seems like it may not be open source in how most people think about open source: https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/21/llama_is_not_open_source/

wolfshadowheart, in What are your opinions on Meta developing open-source AI?
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There's a certain point where companies making something open source is more like out-sourcing.

FaceDeer, in Q&A: Google’s Geoffrey Hinton — humanity just a 'passing phase' in the evolution of intelligence
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Nobody should expect any particular species to stick around forever. There was always going to someday be something that replaces humans, by whatever definition of "human" and "replacement" you might be using.

My main hope is just that whatever eventually replaces us is worthy of the title. And ideally has some fondness for their evolutionary ancestors.

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