I currently use Android and I'm happy with it.
I'm not a tinkerer by any means, but I do enjoy a fair bit of third-party apps.
The lack of side-loading in iOS is the deal breaker for me, but should this be added, I would 100% try it out.
Yea, that would be great.
Though I've also heard they plan to keep it EU-only for compliance.
I hope it doesn't go like that and the feature gets enabled globally.
If I own a phone I think I should have the ability to do what I want with it, like installing sideloaded apps and customizing it however I want. There’s also much more choice in hardware.
That said, there’s some neat features on iOS that I’m a little jelly of.
Interesting, the very Apple ecosystem that is often considered a huge positive is a negative in your case, interesting, I get where you are coming from though.
When you put it that way, I guess you are right, but you should also consider we have m/Apple, a whole apple community and it's one of the biggest places on kbin.
I know, and I've subscribed to them early on, but my feed is flooded with other communities and I don't recall ever seing amything from /m/Apple...
I also just went there and the newest posts are mostly days apart from each other...
So "one of the biggest" might be true for the subscriber count, but threadwise not so much activity there.
Which is a bummer, honestly... I'm not a huge fan, but I'd still love to be up-to-date on their stuff.
Well, that is obviously because Kbin is new, smaller than something like Reddit, other communities that may flood your feed is mainly because they are generic, while m/apple is well, focused on Apple and it's products, it has more to do with having less users to post on a community that is more specific.
MacOS doesn’t have the same level of lock down as their mobile devices do. Apple also sets the trends so there’s great interest in what they do, since their moves are those that other companies will follow good or bad.
Decisions iphones make also influences decisions Android makes like removing headphone jacks, expandable storage, and notches. There’s a lot of interest in seeing what Apple is up to from everyone, since they set the standards.
I use iOS currently. I used Android for many many years, and loved it. I dreaded iOS and its walled garden.
But for various reasons, when my OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren Edition died and nothing in the Android world really wowed me at a reasonable pricepoint, and knowing that I would be able to get full-quality images and videos from my family and my wife’s family without them having to change their messaging app to accommodate me, I decided to try iPhone for the first time since like, the 3GS.
I’ve had the 13 Pro Max for over a year now and honestly I love it. It took a lot of getting used to at first. Everything is a bit different, and getting over those differences was frustrating. There are still things I really miss. Android handles notifications better, Android does gestures better (being able to go back from either side of the screen is huge), and OnePlus at least, maybe Android in general, let me open the camera by double-tapping the power button, so I could have the camera loaded by the time it was in position. I’m still much slower on the draw with my iPhone, unfortunately.
But iOS has its advantages, too. The battery life is amazing. The Apple Watch kicks the shit out of every Wear OS watch I owned (and also fixes my issues with notifications). The search function is crazy quick to the point that I hardly ever open apps from their icons in the Home Screen or App Drawer equivalent. Everything is polished and rarely fucks up. And when anything IS wrong, there are local stores that can fix it that day. I had a faulty front camera on my phone originally, it was replaced within the day, didn’t have to send it off for OnePlus to replace it. When the back glass broke they replaced basically the entire phone for $30 or something, again within the day. Integration between devices is beautifully seamless.
Basically I’ve found that both are very good options these days. It’s silly that anyone really cares which device you use.
When I was younger I liked to root my Android phones and use custom ROMs. But it had been years since I had done any of that, and I realized that what I was giving up moving to iOS was much less than I had thought.
I may go back someday. I’ve tried to keep everything in Google still so that I don’t have to give up anything except app purchases if I go back. But for now I’m happy on iOS.
This is me exactly. I was so into flashing custom ROMs and customizing everything. But as I got older I cared less about that and wanted something that just worked well out of the box. Pixels always seemed to have a fatal flaw so I tried the iPhone, I think it was the 8 Plus, and haven’t looked back.
I have no doubt that I could switch to Android and be totally fine, but haven’t had reason to. My iPhone 12 is still solid, I may upgrade this next iteration or next.
knowing that I would be able to get full-quality images and videos from my family and my wife’s family without them having to change their messaging app to accommodate me, I decided to try iPhone for the first time since like, the 3GS.
This is the biggest pain for me, but my solution is different. I just ask them to share a link to an iCloud album, which is also asking them to make albums! So far it has worked pretty well, and they almost all appreciate having an album for related pictures. I think it’s insane that Apple does this on purpose.
Im using a 6T with lineageos. How is your battery life? I still get a full day out of mine (I think only 3-4 hours SOT though). I’m hoping to keep it for a long time (no news phone have piqued my interest!)
I’ve set double tap to launch camera. Not sure if this solution fits your camera needs, but it works really well for me on my 14 pro.if you’re prone to false launching then triple tap is also available
I find my pop socket makes the back tap iffy. I’ve also tried the Apple Watch tap, which does work, but both only work (IIRC) when the phone is already unlocked. With my old OnePlus phones I could double-tap the power button while the phone was coming out of my pocket and have the camera ready as soon as it was up in my hands ready to go. I’m not adept enough with the iPhone’s swipe on the lock screen to do the same thing smoothly.
Probably the feature I miss the most, honestly. It’s SO good for capturing things as they were happening.
Are you me? I had the same phone and upgraded to the 13 Pro Max too. Moved away from iOS after the 3GS too. Nextcloud background photos upload is def the thing I miss most from android. Have all iCloud functionality disabled
Using my iPad and then seeing how difficult it was to find apps that didn’t have ads, apps I could buy outright, and so many subscription only options was what turned me away. And then how incompatible it is requiring work arounds to access the file system if you aren’t using air drop compared to Android where just plugging it into any system and giving permission lets you see files beyond just pics and videos you took, and move files back and forth with ease.
And how difficult it was to find Foss apps without something like F-droid. And because of that I noticed apps I took for granted on Android creates a system where you are having to spend more money and then being up sold subscriptions because of lack of options. It felt like a very gacha like environment. It felt so much like dealing with some scummy sales person.
The UI/UX on iOS has improved dramatically in the last few years (especially for springboard, which was what I most hated). Coming from Android to iOS, my phone looks so different from everyone else I know who uses iOS, since their home screens have evolved over years and mine was, “how can I, in 2022, make an iPhone look as much like my Android Home Screen as possible?”
I have one screen with a giant weather widget, and some folders for my most-used apps, plus I have four on my dock.
To the left of the main screen is the “Today View” where I have a number of useful widgets that get me quick access to specific things.
To the right of the main screen is the app drawer equivalent, whatever they call it. To be honest I never use it.
Most of the time when I want to launch an app I just swipe down and type the first few letters. That’s usually sufficient. I find having used this phone for a little over a year I’m now as efficient or more efficient than I was on Android, at least for the task of getting from the home screen to whatever app I want.
This was huge for me, because in my previous experience springboard was TERRIBLE unless the device was jailbroken. Now it’s really nice.
I would still love the level of customization Android has. Major feature I’d like would be for the home screen not to push all widgets and icons to the front and left. I wish it would let me put stuff wherever I want so I could have a larger amount of my wallpaper visible while still having the icons closer to my thumbs.
I know there are widget solutions to this problem, but that’s clunky.
But it’s SO MUCH BETTER now than it used to be. Old springboard, that was basically just the Android app drawer, was terrible.
Neither really. But I guess it's between the OS that supports NewPipe, Tachiyomi, and EDOPro; against the easiest one to watch YouTube on its own platform & play Carcassonne on.
I haven't used iOS since iPhone 4ish, so my notions may be obsolete, but...
I didn't like how locked down and nanny-ish iOS was. Can I download a file in one app and then use it in another? No. Whaa?
Android was far more open and easier to use. I first tried it by getting a Nexus 7 tablet, and then switched my phone as well.
Now, however, for the first time in a decade I'm actually considering giving the Apple side a try again. The flip side of all that lockdown is really seamless integration. Phone - mac - watch - tv - etc. iMessage. All appealing, vs the various "it's almost as good as" solutions in the Android world.
If I try it again, I think I'd do what I did the first time ... get an iPad, and if I liked it switch the phone later.
Android because it makes more sense to me, although that is probably because it is similar enough to windows type systems.
I have never enjoyed working with Apple products other than the iPod. It just feels like it is holding my hand and forcing me to do things a certain way that hides the details I care about.
Android all the way. I'm just not comfortable with the Apple ecosystem at all. iOS definitely has its advantages with the devices that run it being standardized. However, while I don't necessarily need bleeding edge everything, I enjoy personalizing things to taste, and ultimately do not like devices nor operating systems that are locked down tightly.
I prefer Android but am using a iPhone 13 mini. If imessage was on android I would drop it in a heartbeat. Apple's platform is amazing and if you are all in on it then you can prosper. The second you try to use an apple product or service different than apple intends, you will have a bad time.
I support apple for their privacy and update stances but I do not like their unwillingness to embrace other platforms.
Android. I have an ipad and I hate how restricted you are in iOS. There’s no (official) sideloading of apps (yet).
Browsers suck hard. Everything is basically Safari with a skin. I wish I could get Firefox with full extension support.
I feel like I’m constantly battling the OS when I want to do something that seems really simple.
Case in point: you cannot remove photos from your photostream (or whatever it’s called).
You can add them to albums, sure, but they will also stay in the main feed. I want to move them and unclutter my feed.
And finally, and this might be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think iOS is intuitive at all. I constantly have to google how to do things, only to often find I simply can’t, or not easily at least.
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