Will I be banned? Looking to migrate from Reddit, but only if free speech is paramount.

Looking to see if I am welcom on kbin to express the viewpoint that it is not possible to be "trans."

I assert that it is not possible to transition and that gender is the same as sex.

Is this an acceptable viewpoint on kbin, or will I be banned for expressing this?

Not looking to start a fight, just want to know if such speech is tolerated here.

s_s,

How young is too young, OP?

Let's skip all the in between and just get to the point...🥱🙄

QingQangQong,

Out of curiosity how do you view people born intersex? Would you call an intersex person he/she regardless of how they wanted to be called?

anathema_device,
anathema_device avatar

@haughty_thoughts I'm not going to ban you. I'm going to call you a bigot and block you, like a civilised person. Bye!

dreadedchalupacabra,

If that kind of free speech is allowed, I absolutely pray that I'm also allowed to mock you incessantly for it. Conservatives check in like "Hey am I allowed to be intolerant here? I just wanna be sure you won't ban me for spouting hate."

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

I'm sure you'll be able to find a kbin instance that will tolerate and indeed celebrate whatever views you hold - if not, you can simply start a new instance yourself.

The extent to which other instances will federate with it is a differet question.

zero_iq,

Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. And your right to say what you want doesn't mean people will want to listen to it, nor that they shouldn't express their disapproval by whatever means they wish.

Try it and find out. If you get banned, start your own instance. People will be free to join you, ignore you, and/or defederate you as they see fit.

NettoHikari,

There's a fine line between "free speech" and "hate speech". Doing hate speech is not free speech. In my experience, it's usually americans who don't understand this.

losttourist,
losttourist avatar

Americans have fetishised the concept of free speech to a remarkable degree. Virtually no other country permits such a toxic policy.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

It all stems from a fundamental misunderstanding (or intentional ignorance, I imagine, in many cases) of what 'free speech' really means in the US constitution. All it means is that you can speak out against the government without being jailed for your views. It definitely does not mean that people can say whatever they want without consequences, even though that's what people who hold particularly abhorrent views would like everyone to believe.

Nepenthe,
Nepenthe avatar

Europeans and being casually xenophobic with zero prompting. Really wish that could be more unexpected post-reddit.

Jerry,
  1. Before joining an instance you can go to their /terms page and see if they will tolerate you because you're just making stuff up and your ignorance will hurt and endanger people. Most KBIN and Lemmy servers will, fortunately, not willingly host you because of this.
  2. I won't tolerate you, so don't join my instance. So, 1 down.
Phantom_Engineer,
@Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml avatar

You say kbin as if it’s a unitary thing, but that’s not quite right. Between Lemmy and Kbin, there’s a whole slew of instances being ran. Go find you one that will take you and join there. If you get banned, go find another one. If you run out, start your own.

This applies to literally any viewpoint or opinion. All the tankies, for example, hang out over at lemmygrad.ml

SwingingKoala,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Just find an instance that likes your whatever views. kbin is not a single entity.

omenmis,

you can spout incorrect shit, but you'll probably be banned. Freedom of speech and freedom of association go hand in hand, and admins here will deplatform you much the same way a KKK member at a comedy club will be shown the door.

mombi,

Good thing you don't determine what's reality and what isn't with your personal assertions then, as you're not very good at it.

On whether you'll be banned, hopefully. Hate speech is not protected speech.

southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Afaik, it isn't expressly forbidden. But you aren't going to have much luck spouting that kind of inaccurate view. I mean, I'm having trouble not poking at the egregiously misused words in there, and I'm fairly chill about letting people figure things out on their own.

So, I don't think you'll find the viewpoint tolerated by fellow users, regardless of what any official stance is

Odo,

Is this an acceptable viewpoint

No. Go away.

sandblast,

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you are allowed to say anything you want, everywhere you want without consequences. It just means you won't be jailed for your opinions. Even if you get banned you can join an instance that allows it. Probably would be one that is de-federated by virtually everyone though.

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