We heard you like toggles so we put a toggle in your toggle.
This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.
This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.
Pixel, You’re not wrong, but you just reminded me to setup some Tasker events to manage my BT enabled state.
Still, my phone does single tap to toggle and tap on the down arrow or longpress for settings page
lorkano, Going through the comments, I think it’s clear to conclude this should be a choice to configure this tile. Some people prefer single tap to turn off, some don’t
WereCat, I prefer this. I’ve been annoyed by having to go to the settings every time I wanted to swap device I want to connect to. I rarely turn off BT anyways.
Tier1BuildABear, Before it was a single tap to turn Bluetooth on/off, and a tap+hold to open the Bluetooth settings (or any quick setting tile in your notification tray). Maybe you just didn’t know about that feature but the old way was 100% better.
WereCat, I knew about it but still prefer this new way
nxdefiant, I don’t like it, but I like it more than the old way of holding the button down to get to the menu. I do hate that the “see all” menu doesn’t just expand the current menu, it takes you to the old menu. There’s definitely hints of windows95 creeping into Android.
SuperSpruce, Can we talk about how space inefficient the UI is? It takes up the entire screen to essentially show 6 buttons. And I bet like the Internet toggle that it moves the buttons around when it detects new networks
Michal, It’s actually 9 buttons + DONE button. Each device has the option to connect to it by clicking its name, or enter Settings by tapping on its gear icon.
SuperSpruce, I stand corrected. My brain must’ve been switched off at the moment.
blackn1ght, That was my first thought. Which skin of Android is this?
lorkano, This is not a skin, it’s a pure android probably on pixel device
blackn1ght, Ah right! I’m a fair few versions behind now so didn’t recognise it.
Cort, I think Android 12 is where this was introduced, and 13 where they made the buttons even bigger
V0lD, So, maybe a weird question, but what are you doing with your phone exactly that you need to turn on Bluetooth on a daily basis?
woodenskewer, This was pointed out already that I could just unpair my personal phone to my speaker, but I have 2 phones. I have a speaker at work both are paired to. So every day I turn bluetooth off so when I turn my speaker on I’m not announcing connection to my personal phone because it violates cell phone policy. Because it announces connection to both, I turn bluetooth off before I go inside. Since I have a work phone, I’m good to use that one, just not my personal phone.
SuperSpruce, I sometimes use Bluetooth headphones but turn off Bluetooth to save battery.
V0lD, I will never understand wireless headphones as a concept. They seem objectively worse in every way.
Lower sound quality, more battery intensive, have to be charged, less comfortable, easier to drop and way easier to lose. Also, makes you look like you’re talking to yourself all the time
el_abuelo, Sound quality is sufficiently indistinguishable in quality for me, battery lasts way longer than I need, more comfortable because I don’t have a cable being snagged on things, never dropped or lost them, and if you can’t see my over-ear headphones then no wire is going to help you.
Additionally I can connect to multiple devices (computer and mobile) and I can get up and walk around as I need and not lose audio.
Noel_Skum, I went - kind of - wireless so I’ll never break another connector in my phone and I can change clothes (for work) all day long. My buds are physically connected to each other but not to my phone. Perfect set-up of compromises when I travel and work. (Sony WI-C310)
dingus, I thought some of these things initially, but then I noticed I wasn’t constantly accidentally getting the cord hooked on things and yanking them out of my ears all the time. That bit has been super nice. Plus I have a pair that sounds absolutely fantastic…no issues with sound quality. Maybe I’m just a klutz, but freeing yourself of wires is super nice.
Note that if you only use headphones in a stationary position, a wire isn’t very obtrusive. But if I’m doing something like laundry, the dishes, cleaning up, getting some exercise, or even just being seated at my computer (where I would always forget I had wired headphones on and I would yank them off when I stood up), going wireless has been great.
HOWEVER, one of the biggest downsides to wireless headphones has been gaming. The latency makes them unusable for that purpose imo. We just aren’t there yet in terms of that tech.
Carighan, I think however this is just based on how the average user interacts with this toggle. Very few users actively turn off their BT, ever, as they have frequent situations where they want their BT to just work immediately.
OTOH, this means that in some cases, they need to swap which device to connect to, hence opening the menu on the first tap.
asciimage, https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/ed1db21c-b041-4c93-9c02-739417e658f6.pngI like the way Nothing OS does it. Tapping the icon toggles Bluetooth on/off, and tapping the text/rest of the button opens the popup.
cyberpunk007, But the wifi button still pisses me off. I want my separate LTE data toggle back.
Uriel_Copy, I actually have separate buttons for WiFi and data but they were buried in the ‘edit’ list
Pantherina, Not in stock Android 14 / AOSP
Uriel_Copy, I thought Lineage OS was pretty close to AOSP, interesting to discover the things which have been added
michael_palmer, Lineage OS based on Android 11. Pressing the icon toggles Bluetooth. Pressing the text opens popup. It works the same way also for wi-fi, mobile data and DND.
https://lemmy.sdf.org/pictrs/image/115384fa-ea35-459d-b409-bb29a113f615.png
Pantherina, Yes the buttons and the “long press power button on display off for flashlight” both small but soo useful things
Uriel_Copy, Gad damn, I use that all the time!
Pantherina, Yup, an issue on the GrapheneOS issue tracker was closed, to implement this feature. Maybe giving it another try might help? Its damn useful and smart, as this has no function
WereCat, This I can agree with
douglasg14b, The way it works right now on my phone is you tap it to turn it on and off and then you long hold to open the setting.
I’m going to be peeved if that goes away in favor of OPs process…
asciimage, Yeah, long-pressing to open the menu makes intuitive sense regardless of whether you open the menu more than toggle.
DNOS, The fuck… now i understand why the hell sometimes it opens me that annoying window … It works the same on miui
dustyData, Same on OneUI, it’s been part of the UX language for a while.
Hagdos, That’s how my Samsung works too
ProtoShark, They need to add a way to quick toggle it, maybe a double tap or hold.
cyberpunk007, Tap and hold should bring this menu up. Tap should just toggle it. It’s stupid.
Elkenders, Isn’t this how it used to work? I hate the double toggle too.
morbidcactus, Yuuuup
I was literally mini ranting to my partner about it yesterday. I keep my bluetooth off unless I’m actively using it so it’s annoying. Hold still brings you to the bluetooth settings.
What’s even more annoying is aside from the internet, every other bubble is a toggle on mine so you’re now mixing actions on the same looking icons.
Edit: apparently I missed the little tiny arrow in the corner, that should tip me off of the entire different behaviour
glibg, I thought this was only on graphene, as a way to confirm your wanted Bluetooth radio turned on. As a general Android update, it makes no sense
0oWow, It’s so Google can keep tracking you via Bluetooth and WiFi, which they hope you forgot to turn off said tracking option in settings, and they are making it difficult to turn off all the way.
helenslunch, Same bullshit they did when they combined WiFi and Cell into one toggle and called it “internet”.
Like DO YOU PEOPLE JUST NOT UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS MENU YOU YOURSELVES CREATED!?
clgoh, That’s a major improvement. Nobody turns off Bluetooth.
It’s now easier to check or disconnect devices.
MeDuViNoX, Location and Bluetooth are constantly off for me, my phone is lucky if it isn’t in airplane mode.
N4CHEM, Yes we do. I have Bluetooth off 95% of the time, unless I’m using headphones
laughterlaughter, Bluetooth always off for me, until I need it. Then I’ll turn it on, then back to off.
Honytawk, I like my battery more than I like my Bluetooth.
Uriel_Copy, I hated that too, but buried in the’edit’ list I still found separate toggles for WiFi and data (on Lineage OS)
helenslunch, What edit list?
Uriel_Copy, When you edit your quick-access tiles. Mine has a little pencil if I expand the notification area fully. I have these choices, where ‘Internet’ is the annoying combined WiFi/data button, but the other two were in there and I just had to drag them out instead.
helenslunch, Interesting, I don’t have those options on Pixel
01189998819991197253, They used to be there and were removed a couple updates ago. Really annoyed me.
Turun, What’s even more infuriating is that the panel is blue even if both wifi and cell network are tuned off!
Carighan, I would turn your yelling around: Do you honestly believe the vast majority of users need more than just that functionality, which beelines you into connecting to a specific Wi-Fi over toggling anything on or off?
Much like the Bluetooth menu, these changes are driven by the fact that the vast vast majority of users only ever need to access a quick “connect to this BT device” or “I want to connect to this Wi-Fi” menu. Never anything else.
It sucks as a power user, but at least for me I could find individual toggles when editing the quick panel.
helenslunch, (edited ) Do you honestly believe the vast majority of users need
If users don’t need it, then why was it created in the first place? Of course they need it.
If you want to change networks or Bluetooth devices, that’s what the setting menu is for. This is called a “quick toggle” because it’s intended to quickly toggle connections on and off.
Carighan, So now what would you do if the data were to show that the vast majority need fast access to a menu to swap which BT device is connected, but only few ever turn it on or off?
Wouldn’t it make sense to have the connect menu available quickly, and the on/off deeper in the configuration, just like you say it but the other way around?
Of course, 10+ versions ago the devs expected the toggle to be used frequently. But unless our users are a very skewed sample, fucking nobody (if you round it) ever does. Same with toggling data.
morrowind, This is part of why is think stock android is now trash. I’ll stick to oem skins for now
bitwolf, And then they don’t toggle where you want to toggle (a connect / disconnect on each device) so you have to tap and guess or open settings anyway
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