key,

Studies have found ( for example ) conspiracy thinking correlates with extremist political beliefs, especially right wing political beliefs, across countries. That linked study found the effect was strengthened by lack of political control.

So countries with more political extremists, especially far right wing in media platforms, leads to more popular conspiracy theories.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

That is the finest example of begging the question I have seen in years! It’s really rare to see in the wild.

deadbeef79000,

Oooh, could you expand on that? I’ve always had a tough time identifying begging the question and a real example would help.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

You are MOST welcome, it took me ages to make it click, this is the best example I have found:

  • How come the iPhone so popular?
  • Because it’s the hottest thing on the market right now.
deadbeef79000,

Ha! I’d discarded that as just a tautology and went looking for something else.

TYVM.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

YAMBB

you and me both bro

034521231,

This seems like a type of study that is perfect to cultivate the data by what is considered a conspiracy theory. For example the covid lab leak was labeled a conspiracy theory.

jeffw,

We conclude that conspiracy mentality is associated with extreme left- and especially extreme right-wing beliefs, and that this non-linear relation may be strengthened by, but is not reducible to, deprivation of political control.

GONADS125,

To add to this, radicalism spreads thru a social contagion effect and requires repeated reinforcement, and social media acts as a catalyst. However, local organizing also plays a vital role in the spread far-right extremism.

Here is an article I have written on my blog detailing how people become radicalized. I have ads turned off and do not benefit in any way from my blog.

One important section I’d like to share here is for the false ‘both sides’ arguments:


<span style="color:#323232;">  There is a stark difference in the means with which the two groups engage in acts of extremism. In a study evaluating Left-Wing and Right-Wing domestic extremism between 1994 and 2020, there was one fatality as the result of Left-Wing extremism, versus 329 fatalities resulting from Far Right extremism in that 25 year period. [5]
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">   The Far-Right movement is the oldest and most deadly form of domestic terrorism in the United States, and The Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism found that the Far-Right is responsible for 98% of extremist murders in the U.S. [24] Furthermore, for nearly every year since 2011, Far-Right terrorist attacks/plots have accounted for over half of all terror attacks/plots in the United States. [21]
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">   In the U.S., Right-Wing extremism was responsible for two-thirds of all failed, foiled, or successful terror attacks in 2019, and was responsible for 90% of attacks in the first half of 2020 alone. [21] Since 2013, Far-Right extremism has been responsible for more terror attacks/plots than the Left-Wing, ethnonationalism, or religiously motivated attacks/plots. [21]
</span>

References

ItchySunItchyKnee,

That was a really interesting read, thank you for sharing.

The blog comes across a lot more professional than expected, cheers

Boozilla,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Only an agent of the New World Order would post this.

Maeve,

I giggled aloud!

ApostleO,

You know too much, Trent Miller. Would be a shame if people knew you lived at 221b Evergreen Terrace, Castle Rock Maine.

Norgur,

It was 451c Chapter Road, London, NW2 5NG

NeoNachtwaechter,

I have met several people who moved into Usa during the last years, and they all said Yes very much.

someguy3,

Moved from where?

NeoNachtwaechter,

Some Germans and some Usamericans who had lived in Europe for a while.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Why would you do that?

shinigamiookamiryuu,

Yes, though you have to remember, in most other places, the government cracks down on conspiracy theories. For example, if you live in China and believe that certain groups are secretly being mistreated, you’re going to have the authorities on your tail.

jabathekek,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

I would say people in countries with poor or non-existent public education are more prone. The USA’s public education system was eviscerated in the 70’s I think.

GreyFalcon,

Perfectly stated.

watson387,
@watson387@sopuli.xyz avatar

By design. It’s a lot easier to fleece stupid people.

TropicalDingdong,

I would say people in countries with poor or non-existent public education are more prone. The USA’s public education system was eviscerated in the 70’s I think.

As early as the 60s, but really the 80s. Through the 70s US had some of the best public education on the planet. The move to privatize education started in earnest under Reagan (in California, as governor), and then further under Reagan (and every president and congress to now).

Specifically:

• calling for an end to free tuition for state college and university students

• annually demanding 20 percent across-the-board cuts in higher education funding

• repeatedly slashing construction funds for state campuses

• engineering the firing of Clark Kerr, the highly respected president of the University of California

• declaring that the state “should not subsidize intellectual curiosity”

files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ684842.pdf

tdawg,

How the fuck do you come to the conclusion that you’re spending too much money on education

homesweethomeMrL,

R E A G A N.

The Trump era began by ripping out the solar panels on the White House and tricking blue collars into voting against themselves.

It was, and is, fucking awful.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Just look at the GOP. They repeat garbage until their pawns believe it.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

Educated people tend to lean liberal and conservatives hate open minded people.

gaifux,

People in education tend to lean liberal. Conservatives don’t hate people but they do realize there’s such thing as being so open minded your brains spill out.

Hairyblue,
Hairyblue avatar

It's this. People with good educations will figure out that the Republicans are lying to them to take advantage of them. Republicans don't want their pigeon/fools to think too hard about the lies they tell.

Look at Trump. Is he an obvious liar? Yes. But there are very "poorly educated" people who believe all the lies he says.

gaifux,

Right. We missed our chance when Hillary didn’t get in. I can’t see why people imply she’s dishonest.

satanmat,

Easy

They are talking at the dinner table about doing things that are against my self interest. I don’t want those damn kids learning that. Therefore cut education

Rather that you know the market place of ideas that I espouse; as long as they match what I believe.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

With Reagan, it was because Republicans at the time thought there would be too many educated poor people. One of his advisors (Roger Freeman) said:

“We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat…That’s dynamite! We have to be selective on who we allow [to go to college]…If not, we will have a large number of highly trained and unemployed people.”

He was basically worried about a revolution because of it.

Source: theintercept.com/…/student-loans-debt-reagan/

There’s other sources if you don’t like the Intercept.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein,

Well, you see, it was educate 10,000 people or build another fighter jet.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

And people look at that and say, sure, I’ll vote for this guy.

It’s a self perpetuating spiral to hell.

captainlezbian,

That last one hits hard. The state must subsidize intellectual curiosity. Intellectual curiosity gave us everything from electricity to modern governmental theory to the mathematics that would later turn out to allow wireless communications. Curiosity without a point is extremely valuable.

And it should be noted that even in late medieval Europe the state funded intellectual curiosity. The nobility were the state and many either were curious themselves or would patronize intellectuals

andrewf,

Yes. The lizard people engineered us that way.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think there may be a factor of sample size; There’s something like 40 million Canadians, 40 million Australians, 60 million British, and 340 million Americans. So if you take a random sample of English speech on any topic, it’s statistically most likely to be from an American.

catalog3115,

You forgot Russia, india & china

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

No I didn’t. India might be an asterisk.

AnalogyAddict,

America has vast tracts of arable land with people who have nothing to look at but fields and endless sky, and who get very little contact with other humans.

replicat,

Australians seem to have a thing for conspiracy theories too.

Pratai,

Yes.

yesman,

I wouldn’t say individuals are more susceptible to it, but the US’s history is intertwined with conspiracy theories from the start. The founding “father” Sam Adams had tracts printed claiming the British had a secret plan to enslave white colonists ahead of the American war of independence.

The Spanish American war was stoked by a conspiracy that Spain had sabotaged our warship “Maine”. If you’ve ever wondered why the US Navy has a base in Cuba.

The “corrupt bargain” of 1824 was a supposed deal between JQ Adams and Clay to exclude Jackson from the presidency despite his electoral victory. Jackson too, was the subject of a theory that he and congressmen disgruntled over tariffs would dissolve the union and install Jackson as a military dictator should he loose in 1828.

Chriswild,

People believe there is a magic sky dad who loves you so much they send you to suffer for eternity with the original naughty child who apparently wants to punish you for doing what they want.

Religions generally make conspiracy theories seem rational.

Bebo,

There are plenty of crazies believing in conspiracy theories all over the world. Not just US or even the western world.

fidodo,

Nope, but it’s not that Americans falling for conspiracies is over blown, just that there are a lot of idiots everywhere.

Porokoro,

No, Americans are just as prone as the other anglo countries, there’s just more of them. If we start delving into other languages, then things immediately go downhill. For example, I speak Arabic and I would say that at least 80% believe in at least 1 batshit crazy conspiracy theory. Why? It’s because the vast majority of Arabs consume their information from Facebook and a good chunk of that information comes from state owned propaganda outlets. Just a 2 minute scroll on my father’s Facebook, I saw the following conspiracies:

Israel is created by the kufar to sin against allah

India is on the brink of becoming majority muslim

Incest, pedophilia, and zoophilia are common in the West because they don’t have islamic morals

Russia is fighting NATO and winning

Hamas is beating Israel so bad that Israel is on the brink of collapse

Eating Pork will slowly turn your heart inside out

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Eating Pork will slowly turn your heart inside out

Now I want to know what they think happens when it’s half-way inside out.

mojofrododojo,

I think they’re exposed to more crazy, therefore. Not more susceptible, but wildly more exposed.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

After reading this comment (sh.itjust.works/comment/7841077) I’d think nobody wins the battle.

mojofrododojo,

well, shit… that’s a firehose of crazy too. I will incorporate this into my re-evaluation continuing.

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