I find the """man up""" school of thought generally works for me when faced w a tough situation but 97% of the time it's presented as an obnoxious show of bravado. What are better ways to phrase this?

like, if i’m feeling bad but force myself to do something, i usually feel better. how to maintain the usefulness of this advice without presenting it as ‘fuck your feelings’, in that usual arrogant right wing sort of way

indepndnt,

I don’t remember the details but there was an Internet story about a dude who’d say “man up” and people explained why that was a problem and he updated to “fortify”. And I really like that, because it kinda suggests also getting help where you need it to build up your defenses in order to face the thing you need to face.

UsernameIsTooLon,

Nowadays I say “this shit ain’t nothing to me” or “it is what it is” a lot. I never thought about it being more gender neutral until this post though.

ohlaph,

I usually tell myself to “suck it up”. Especially if it’s something I know I will benefit from.

qwerty_bastard,

Makes me think of penis in mouth

ohlaph,

It does beg the question of where did that phrase come from and what exactly are we sucking up. Maybe it is a penis, I don’t judge. But also, what if it’s a delicious cake?

Metans,

If you have to suck your cake up then it doesn’t sound delicious to me, it sounds raw

meekah,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

So you’re saying I can lick the mixer clean?

Oaksey,

If that is what one frequently sucks, one probably would think that.

qwerty_bastard, (edited )

I don’t suck enough of it these days

bitwaba,

Well suck it up

dnick,

Really weird way to phrase that if talking about a penis…unless you’re talking about a flaccid one which is even more weirdly specific.

swordsmanluke,

(This is not an idiom, just something I realized as a parent.) Sometimes, being an adult means “reaching into the shit.”

Shit has to be dealt with. My kids - as babies - could not deal with their own shit. It was my job and responsibility as their parent to clean up that shit. And sometimes something would get dropped in the shit. And you gotta reach in.

Nobody likes dealing with shit. Everyone tries to take as little shit as they can. But some days, no matter how I feel - it’s on me to reach into the shit.

ComradeKhoumrag,
@ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub avatar

I think part of being a man is not caring what other men define your manliness as.

If you have an idea that “manning up” involves some change in machismo, I think that might be a little toxic. But, if in not caring that your behavior made other men think about, caused friction, and was then interpreted as machismo, that’s better in my book.

If you like the sense of machismo and that phrase helps you as an imaginative aid, then why not. But I think it can be more constructive if you can interpret manliness independent from machismo

Lath,

Get prehistoric, go full barbarian, hulk it out, become psychosocial.

Arthur_Leywin,

Toughen up

Riccosuave,
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

“Action over anxiety.”

My mom has told me this since I was a kid, and it is still something I am trying to put into practice effectively when met with challenging situations. It is the most forgiving way I can think of to get yourself in the mental headspace you are talking about without the “time to nut up” connotation.

b3an,
@b3an@lemmy.world avatar

I really like this, and your mom is wise. Hug her for us if you can! 🫂

Riccosuave,
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

I will do that, thank you. I’ll show her your response. I’m sure she will appreciate the kind words.

stoy,

While I don’t have an exact answer for you I do have two rules that I try to live by that had helped me deal with being an adult:

  1. To be an adult, you only need to know when it is apropriate to be childish. - This implies a shitload of stuff, it implies that you know what being childish means, as well as being able to read a situation. I treat it as a reminder that it is ok to keep playing and as long as you do it apropriately you can ignore critics.
  2. Don’t paint the devil on the wall unless he stands in the hallway, but it won’t harm you to have some paint available. - Basically don’t constantly prepare for the worst, but should the worst happen, take notes and analyze the situation, and be somewhat prepared to do so.
state_electrician,

Why would I paint him on the wall if he’s already right there in the hallway? That makes little to no sense.

stoy,

So you recognize him?

state_electrician,

If he still looks the same as when we signed that deal, sure.

gravitas_deficiency,

As a self-encouragement strategy, I agree, and often use the same trick.

maximum effort

time to nut up or shut up

never half-ass two things. whole-ass one thing.

There’s a bunch of colloquialisms that express roughly the same thing, as others have mentioned - take your pick.

analwound,

Ain’t no hill for a stepper

PapaStevesy,

Monkey Up

prex,
LeafOnTheWind,

*cue Mulan Make a Man Out of You song

Ookami38,

Man, I fuckin love that song. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a lot of hate towards it, at least that I’ve seen. I’ve seen some pretty vitriolic things aimed at media making far more innocuous implications lmao

hanekam,

Grit your teeth

Stiff upper lip

Sisu

Many ways to articulate this

Ookami38,

Sisu!!

crozilla,

I worked with a stunt coordinator once who told one of his guys that he was going to drop him, lying parallel to the ground, from the ceiling. He wouldn’t be able to brace his fall (as he was supposed to be dead), so he told his guy he’d just have to “cowboy up.” Not sure that’s a better phrase, but it’s got more color.

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