I find the """man up""" school of thought generally works for me when faced w a tough situation but 97% of the time it's presented as an obnoxious show of bravado. What are better ways to phrase this?

like, if i’m feeling bad but force myself to do something, i usually feel better. how to maintain the usefulness of this advice without presenting it as ‘fuck your feelings’, in that usual arrogant right wing sort of way

MrShankles, (edited )

Buckle up Buckaroo

Edit: The wife and I always use the term “rally”. Like, “Here we go a-rallying again” or “we’re rally-gals today”. So maybe instead of “man-up”, you could try “It’s time to rally”?

Mouselemming,

As High King Margo puts it:

“LIFE IS PAIN. OVARY UP.”

Gee, it doesn’t fit you, it leaves out your whole gender? Take another look at yours. If you want something more neutral, and with a little softer edge,

“Sometimes you just gotta suck it up”

implies you understand that what they are facing sucks, doesn’t suggest they’re not a man if they fail, and doesn’t imply that female=worthless.

nac82,

High King Margo, the destroyer. Just finished a rewatch of this.

Not to bash her performance since I love the show, but did anybody else think she was kind of phoning in some of her scenes in the final season? I started wondering if something was happening behind the scenes.

thisbenzingring,

Doing the right thing is hard

When I getting to the point of boiling over, I remind myself that what I am doing is hard because its the right thing to do. It usually helps or at least puts me into a mindset that evaluates what I am doing to make sure that its worth the hassle.

Num10ck,

Put on your big girl panties

vivavideri,

This was my go-to, but has since evolved to “big kid pants”

rammer,
@rammer@sopuli.xyz avatar

If you’re going through Hell, keep going.

iamtrashman1312,

I reframe it as a reminder that something is temporary. “I only have to deal with this for x more hours/days/whatever” helps me remember that while I gotta be tough now, I don’t necessarily have to be later.

thesporkeffect,

It’s not useful as a punchy slogan, but in periods of duress I try to step outside my feelings to evaluate my goals and reactions, and then when I have done that analysis I visualize myself doing a kind of DBZ power up sequence, but kind of defensively oriented. It sounds ridiculous and I am explaining it really poorly but it seems to help

intensely_human,

Who gives a shit what people think it means?

“Man up” is the perfect wording of it. It means take responsibility instead of waiting for someone else to do it. Historically the men are the ones who had to face full reality whereas everyone else could rely on some layer of protection.

You could also try saying “macho your nacho” which I just made up.

Mouselemming,

You know your basis is bullshit, right? Women have had to “face full reality” forever. And bear lasting consequences men never experience.

That “protection” you assume is there for them?

Mostly doesn’t exist and never did, it’s just another word for control, and often led to abuse and killing.

A woman has to ovary up every time she says no, because it so easily leads to violence.

She has to gird her tits every time she speaks up, because it’s so often dismissed.

For instance now, you going to listen?

And think?

Or just shut me down?

And make my point?

amio,

It's kinda sorta stoicism, just phrased in a judgmental, dismissive way, that is also pointlessly and rather toxically gendered. It's close to the minimum amount of helpfulness "advice" can possibly have.

Being done with stuff feels good if your reward system is working properly. Other than that, while you can have "inertia" issues getting started and that feels kinda stressful, procrastination tends to get stressful too, after a while. At a certain point you'll just have delayed the gratification to fit in some more worried and often unsatisfying faffing around.

Since pushing through whatever seems to work for you and make you feel better, I would focus on that instead of nonsense about not being macho enough.

KpntAutismus, (edited )

Enjoy when you can, and endure when you must.

-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

not an exact fit, but i think about that sentence often

GONADS125,

One thing that I have drawn strength from repeatedly in hard times was drilled into me by a great professor in undergrad (psychology):

You cannot experience personal growth without struggling; without hardship.

Think of the people who are sheltered from the real-world and then get a full dose of it and are unable to cope and preserve like others who had to grow up early.

I remind myself amidst struggles that I will be coming out on the other side a stronger and more capable person. It helps me to accept the shit on my plate and refuse to give up.

Shard,

Sounds familiar.

Suffering builds character

MajorMajormajormajor,

I thought suffering leads to the dark side?

Shard,

Calvin and Hobbes has far superior writing

Jubei_K_08,

Similar quote, from Fight Club of all places 😂 I often hear it in my head when working out:

Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.

testfactor,

My usual is: Can’t stop, won’t stop!

Toneswirly,

Adversity is inevitable, mistakes are your greatest teacher. Learn and grow, or become your own prisoner.

Kuma,
@Kuma@lemmy.world avatar

I think instead “be nice to the future you”, in the end do we do most things for our future self. It may be hard today but you will be happy you did it tomorrow.

DJKayDawg,

‘show your courage’

‘what cannot be controlled must be endured’

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