blargerer,

I don't think Lemmy is all that negative. Pessimistic as another put it, sure. You are just having the classic experience of someone that's an asshole so see's assholes everywhere. Reflect on your own behaviour.

Jako301,

Lemmy is a nice place if you share the same values, but once your opinion differs even somewhat, you won’t have that good of a time.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Yep. No different to Reddit on that. I’ve posted reasonable comments that were maybe a personal anecdote under someone else’s anecdote and I got downvoted and before the pitchforks come out because I mentioned downvoted, I don’t care about the points, it’s that the comments that seem harmless are being downvoted instead of someone actually saying what’s wrong with it. Sometimes I’ve been an ass and I’ll hold my hand up to that and those comments deserve negativity but something that’s personal experience that’s being shared that gets a negative reaction is shitty. In a recent example I commented under someone on ADHD that I don’t like cold leftovers, I’ve ADHD and I have autistic traits, I would get tested but the waiting list on the NHS would be near a decade and private which I can’t afford is no better. I was tested again 7-9 but it was inconclusive at that time my ADHD symptoms were a lot more prominent. I mentioned maybe it’s a sensory thing for me as I don’t like the texture of cold leftovers and that comment was downvoted. ADHD people can have sensory issues too. Sucks because on the ADHD subreddit I wouldn’t have been downvoted and would’ve had comments in reply that detailed others experiences.

Blaze,

Sorry to hear this.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Ehh. You get used to it when you have ADHD. The irony being that many people with ADHD experience RSD. I liked the Reddit sub as it was always supportive, that was the first time I commented in that ADHD community and I won’t again.

Blaze,

Have you considered switching to an instance that disable downotes? lemmy.blahaj.zone is nice for that

VaultBoyNewVegas,

I might move to blahaj. I’m a queer person and the fact it’s a queer focused instance that seems to have strict rules about respect seriously appeals plus Lemmy worlds stance and defederating from a few communities over piracy has annoyed me a bit.

Blaze,

:(

someguy3,

Exhibit A. Calling people assholes is exactly what OP is talking about. You ramped up the negativity.

Blaze,

Agree

blargerer,

I didn't call them an asshole. I was evoking the asshole rule with regards to the negativity he's seeing everywhere.

someguy3,

No, you called him an asshole. You’re trying a song and dance to do it, but you did. That’s the exact behavior that’s the problem.

Windex007,

I mean, ops comment history is there for the reading.

LemmyQuest,

What is wrong about my comment history?

Windex007,

You have a tendency to get into protracted arguments that revolve almost entirely around semantics.

applepie,

Classic reddit

voracitude,

The whole point of the fediverse is that you can do it yourself if you don’t like the way existing instances operate.

But here it seems you’re not interested in putting forth any effort at all: lemm.ee/comment/11445877

If you want to join someone else’s community, expect to have to abide by their rules. You wanna make the rules, put in the effort to make your own community. Nobody’s forcing you to be here. Bye now, don’t let my block hit you on the way out.

ech,

It’s always a laugh to see users like this. Nothing like joining an established group and then whinging about how “toxic” it is when they get rebuffed for repeatedly breaking the given rules.

LemmyQuest,

What rule did I break ?

HuddaBudda,
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Rule 3. Thou shalt not post thy IQ on the internet.

The guy who scored 167 at IQ test when he was a kid? Sadly logic does not follow emotion. If you want to argue back, then you need reason to be on your side.

Rule 26, If thou criticize communism thou needeth to do more then just question it.

Can you give me examples of socialism working?

Can you name at least one socialist nation that seek equity?

DarkGamer,
DarkGamer avatar

My understanding is that the original devs of Lemmy are tankies, so the culture they fostered was very anti-western values.

intensely_human,

But the original devs don’t control the lemmyverse

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

That’s a pretty flawed and overly reduced understanding.

Nomecks,

Maybe you just have some real shit hot takes.

Susaga,

Looking at their post history, they were banned from unpopular opinion after multiple posts just slagging off the platform. So yeah, some real shit hot takes.

sbv,

People on Lemmy have bailed from Reddit because they have principles. Stuff like Linux. The value of science/education. Lefty-ism (or whatever it’s called in their region). FOSS. They are willing to cut themselves out from a larger community to foster one that is compatible with their principles.

From your comment history you seem to be posting stuff outside of Lemmy’s core beliefs. That’s great! But the people here really believe in those principles, so they react negatively to the comments.

I dunno what else to say. If we want Lemmy to be viable, we need to allow people with other views build communities here. We feel pretty close to a monoculture at the moment.

Boomkop3,

I’ve noticed some instances being very nice overall (hence I’m here) and some being nothing but negative (feddit stood out to me). And occasionally I see a post copy-pasted across a whole bunch of instances with different newly-made accounts sharing misleading news articles.

fortunately, a well oiled block button, and a regex instance filter makes short work of that. I really like lemmy, but just like reddit it’s messy

catsup, (edited )
@catsup@lemmy.one avatar

Your perception of lemmy has been tainted by the kind of communities you interact with. You and I have wildly different experiences on this app.

Part of the reason you feel this way may be caused by you being subscribed to unpopularopinion, an inherently contrarian community. If you’d like to be happy, stop following that community.

I also encourage you to avoid engaging in political conversations with non-rational people: It is extremely unlikely that they will change their minds, and even if you do reach an understanding, that conversation is really likely to leave you with a sour feeling.

In comparison, the communities I’m in are mostly about memes, IT, privacy and LGBT stuff. No news about the war, and no political arguments with random, possibly deranged, users.

The instance I’m in doesn’t even have downvotes! Depending on how you use lemmy, you can have either really good or really bad experiences. I recommend u to try to avoid conflict, and maybe even switch to a downvote-less instance.

Mangoholic,

I would say that lemmy is just more realist then naive optimist, since more intellectual people probably use lemmy or even try to fund Reddit alternatives.

nickwitha_k,

Looking at your post and comment history, it looks like you are, yourself, part of the problem. I see a number of pessimistic (or shit-stirring) posts, posts that appear to be in favor of “ancap”, and commenting in piracy comms. Sorry to say it but, you may want to examine your own behavior before pointing at others.

intensely_human,

It doesn’t seem that way to me. What specifically are you seeing that gives you that impression?

I worry that merely accepting this as presupposed fact will make it more likely to become fact.

nytrixus,

It was predicted ahead of time that there would have been ex-Reddit users or current Reddit users who’s got to come over and spread their misery carried over from Reddit itself. Very insufferable people with too much time on their hands to be bothering to do that.

If only they’d realize that it’s far easier to handle them on Lemmy than it is Reddit. Which in turn, makes them look stupid. I mean, Lemmy isn’t like Spez who allows the registration system to be treated as a machine gun of alts so that trolls seemingly come back instantaneously to resume where they left off.

azulavoir,

Hatred drives engagement on any and all social media. Even ones where everything is made up and the points don’t matter.

spacemanspiffy,

I’ve seen very little negativity on Lemmy in almost a year of using it.

Woozythebear,

Ignoring all the pro genocide posts I guess

otp,

I find Lemmy to be about on par with the popular (Front Page) Reddit subs. I tended to stay in smaller, more niche subs than Front Page subs and found them to be more polite and well-written, generally.

Lemmy isn’t so bad, but we do clearly get some people who are here because they were banned from Reddit (and sometimes for immediately apparent reasons).

I think there’s far more negativity in the comments of YouTube, Instagram, and especially Facebook.

But more than anything, I’ve seen more posts about negativity on Lemmy. So to me, it almost seems like the people coming to (or on?) Lemmy are more sensitive to negativity, maybe?

Alice,
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