Any sci-fi with aliens where humans are not the less advanced race?

What the title says, I’m tired of the trope where humans are the least advanced in the universe.

I’d like to read something different where we’re the more advanced ones (not necessarily the most advanced). As an example I quite enjoyed the Ender’s Game sequels and the angle of us being the more advanced ones was quite interesting.

Do you have any recommendations?

Lowbird,

If you are willing to venture into fanfiction, there are some tags on archiveofourown.org - like “humans are space orcs”, " earth is a deathworld", “earth is space australia” - for fics that feature overpowered humans relative to the aliens. Most of these are so AU that you don’t need any knowledge of the ostensible source material. The trope seems popular particularly with My Hero Academia and Minecraft youtuber fandoms, for whatever reason.

Generally, the scifi worldbuilding is usually really light, including names “made alien” by adding apostrophes and that kind of thing - but they scratch and itch that almost nothing else does. And they’re free! So maybe worth a try at least. Just make sure to filter by kudos.

Dkarma,

Speaker for the dead

erasebegin,

I think Mars Attacks counts, although perhaps the humans and aliens were portrayed as being equally stupid 😄

EDIT: did not realise I was posting in a books group. Just came up in my main feed. Anyway Ima leave Mars Attacks here in case anybody forgot about this excellent film.

calhoon2005,
@calhoon2005@aussie.zone avatar

Ack ack ack ack…

Turun, (edited )

old.reddit.com/r/hfy

Yeah, sorry for promoting reddit here, but this subreddit is exactly what you are looking for. And I mean exactly. It is a collection of stories about humans being awesome, usually in a fantasy or sci-fi setting.

If you do not have a life I can recommend The Deathworlders, which was started there and is also available as an ebook on deathworlders.com . A personal favorite of mine is “Amelia’s Last Battle” and “Humanities Debt”, which are two short stories and do not take a year of dedicated reading to complete. I have also read “Bought and Sold”, “sexy space babes” (contains nsfw), “Chrysalis”, and more.

I can also recommend going through their wiki, which has a list of all completed stories. This is probably the best page to start: old.reddit.com/r/HFY/wiki/ref/must_read

The only caveat is that people there are amateur writers. Some stories are never completed and the quality differs between “well, at least they’re learning how to write” to godlike (e.g. the Deathworlders)

Edit: I see plenty of people already recommended the subreddit XD
I hope mentioning some of the stories I enjoyed does add value here.

I saw you mentioning that you want professional books. I can understand that the format (reddit posts) is not suited for offline reading or printing. This can be very annoying, I agree. But in terms of quality: there are some really good writers there. Buying the book in a physical store or on the internet doesn’t change the words that are written.

GenesisJones,

It’s criminal that no one has mentioned District 9 yet.

I would understand people ignoring it because of the fact that there is a space ship and they have tech, but the setting is ultimately about how the aliens completely need humanity’s help. There is a certain pairity in the movie since they are refugees with some better technology.

But anyway, it has a tremendous story, great action, pulls on the heart strings, super imaginitive idea of aliens being stuck on earth.

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

I agree, and I’m still waiting for a follow up…

GenesisJones,

We all are. :(

fox2263,

Hyperion by Dan Simmons

argv_minus_one, (edited )

In most any Star Trek episode where the Prime Directive is relevant, the humans have encountered primitive (pre-warp) aliens. Usually, some disastrous problem has befallen the aliens that the humans’ technology can easily solve, and the humans must struggle to decide whether to help and bear the consequences (both legal and practical) of intervening, or leave the aliens to their fate as the Directive demands.

PhictionalOne,

r/HFY has a plethora of such (short) stories. HFY stands for Humanity Fuck Yeah. Sadly I am yet to find an active HFY community/magazine on lemmy/kbin

maniel, (edited )
@maniel@lemmy.ml avatar

The Road Not Taken by Harry Turtledove, about aliens trying to invade Earth and finding out there the less advanced race here

Magnetar,

A fun little short story.

emergencyfood,

Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card The Noon series by the Strugatsky brothers The Culture series by Iain M Banks (the protagonists are not humans, but a multi-species civilisation that includes humans) Strata by Terry Pratchett

ComradeR,

If you is talking about the intellectual aspect The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams is a good one. The only thing that aliens are more developed than humans are in the technology, but their smartness are kinda average and similar to human standards. Sometimes they’re even stupid.

Corkyskog,

The Damned Trilogy for sure!

Basically humans are stumbled upon during a long intergalactic war and end up being the entire key to winning it. Really no way else to describe it without giving things away.

Rowsdower,

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  • Ixoid,

    One of my top ten fave scifi novels. Niven and Pournelle’s best work.

    practisevoodoo,

    Did you know there was a sequel? Caught we totally by surprise last year and decades after I originally read Mote.

    Rowsdower,

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  • Ixoid,

    Yes, while not as good as the OG, still a great read!

    ours,

    Technically the aliens make the first step but true, it’s mostly about humanity reaching them. Excellent read.

    kromem,

    Speaker For the Dead is one of my favorite books of all time, which is exactly this concept.

    I highly recommend reading Ender’s Game first, which is also an easy read.

    The author won two Hugo awards for two books in a row (I think the first ever), but only wrote Ender’s Game to flesh out the backstory for Speaker for the Dead.

    Both excellent books with the latter particularly so.

    rikudou,

    Yep, that was the book I had in mind for such a sub-genre (I mention it in the original post).

    yogthos,
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    A few that I can recommend are:

    • Angel Station by Walter Jon Williams
    • Dragon’s Egg by Robert L. Forward
    • Blindsight by Peter Watts
    • Schild’s Ladder by Greg Egan
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