On lemmy everyone acts like reddit is dying and only the worst part is still there. and on reddit they are saying lemmy didn't catch on and reddit's worst part are here so reddit is now better .

I personelly think lemmy users doesn’t just have that reddit feel where if you referenced something most people will get it or when you say something everyone will say the same thing and fill the thread .and people on lemmy seems to think they are absolutely right.

(EDIT :I am not saying i miss these thing or like them even though i kinda do i am just saying things like that were a part of reddit culture like how 4chan have their on culture. Like lemmy is supposed to be a reddit alternative but now there are no niche subs and everyone is too into politics it just doesn’t feel like a reddit alternative .) .

I have been on lemmy for more than 2 months and i mostly lurked or had temp accounts with different usernames (there were only one or two which i have now closed) but this place seems more serious than lighthearted fun but i will still stay here becuase f**k corpos . So these are my views and opinion what do you guys think ?

EDIT: I must include one thing which is on reddit i have never had a real account i just made one or two the entire time i used it which were throwaways that i used to view a post from “subs that are not reviewed” and may not be safe (unless in their app of course -logic.exe missing) or comment . Here i have aldready decided to create a permanent account and start contributing to the communities and i have only been here for 2 months. And i guess i just used reddit to access information and just didn’t felt the need to have an acc or contrubute .END RANT.

EDIT : DO READ THE EDITS.

EDIT : I AM NOT IMPLYING OR EVEN WANT ANYONE TO GO BACK I REALLY DO WANT LEMMY TO BE BETTER . I AM NIT SHOUTING I AM JUST AFRAID SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE WRONG IDEA . AND FOR WHAT ITS WORTH IN MY OPINION REDDIT IS SHIT COMPARED TO LEMMY. SO PLEASE NO ONE GO BACK AND IF YOU HAVE ANY REDDIT FRIENDS INVITE THEM HERE.

einfach_orangensaft,

Duno i dont even think about reddit anymore. I just enjoy beeing able to post in comunitys that have actuall working moderation instead of side wide mods that dont get niche cultural refferrences.

solivine,
@solivine@sopuli.xyz avatar

that reddit feel where if you referenced something most people will get it or when you say something everyone will say the same thing and fill the thread

I think that’s what people want to get away from for the most part.

I like the more serious discussions, and when there is humour it tends to feel more genuine than just a rehashed joke. Reddit definitely has more content though, and more discussion on specific communities (formula 1 being one example, here there’ll be 1-5 comments on a thread that on reddit will hit 200+).

Right now I use both, I think they both have their place, but I do prefer lemmy.

cashews_best_nut,

The top 3-5 comments on Reddit are always low effort jokes or puns.

I still try to be silly occasionally on lemmy even though my sarcasm is rarely noticed. I don’t care I still prefer it here.

squeakycat,

I used to play a game where I guessed the top comment on a post. I was right more than I’d like!

DarkNightoftheSoul,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

Yeah, that’s pretty much it. I can’t go on r/all anymore without blocking 99% of subreddits. It’s all garbage. Meme after stale fucking meme and copies of memes and memes on top of memes inside of memes and ughhh. A waste of electricity and everyone’s time and the only reason anyone participates is because it give the illusion of social interaction without actually providing it. There are some decent niche subreddits that still have living communities, but a significant fraction of “interactions” on reddit generally are bots circlejerking bots to get their karma threshholds so they can spam with Spez’s approval. The general user isn’t allowed to use an app so they can force you onto the main app, but botspammers can abuse the API all day long because it give the impression of a userbase that doesn’t actually exist ahead of their IPO. I would guesstimate the number of active bots on reddit right now is higher than the number of active humans.

Fuck reddit.

kubica,
kubica avatar

I don't really care, as long as I can keep avoiding it I'm fine. I replaced my muscle memory which was what kept me going there for so long. For the rest, we'll see how things go.

squirrel,
@squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Lemmy not catching on and Reddit dying aren’t mutually exclusive, unfortunately. I personally know quite many users who left Reddit, but never made the jump over to Lemmy, because they mostly stayed on Reddit due to particular communities. With those communities getting decimated during the APIcalypse and its fallout, they had little incentive to join Lemmy.

Ultimately my personal opinion is that Lemmy is going to persist, even if it doesn’t cross certain thresholds, it is still a part of the larger Fediverse and due to its interoperability, Lemmy can benefit from the success of the Fediverse, even when not being all that successful by itself.

MataVatnik,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Ultimately my personal opinion is that Lemmy is going to persist, even if it doesn’t cross certain thresholds, it is still a part of the larger Fediverse and due to its interoperability, Lemmy can benefit from the success of the Fediverse, even when not being all that successful by itself.

Exactly

Bishma, (edited )
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

and reddit’s worst part are here so reddit is now better.

Reddit’s worst part is Spez. I hope Spez isn’t here.

OmegaMouse,
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

Reddit feels very hollow to me, and it’s something I’ve noticed more having avoided it for several months. On the Steam Deck subreddit for example, nearly all the posts are ‘hey I just got my Deck!’ and it’s just people fishing for upvotes. Endless pointless posts and rarely any meaningful discussions. I don’t think Reddit is dying and I hope it doesn’t, because every now and then it’s super useful when you find some old post from 2011 where the poster had the exact same niche IT issue as you with a helpful solution. The culture in general over there sucks though.

I’ve found a good mix of serious and lighthearted content on Lemmy.

didnt_readit,

Yeah and not it’s not just with the Steam Deck either, it’s basically every hobby subreddit. 3D printing is a ton of “I just got my Ender 3 can’t wait to do my first print!”, Xbox is “Just got my Series X can’t wait to play!”, self hosting is “I just bought this Optiplex off eBay what should I host on it?!”, etc, etc, etc.

I stopped following a bunch of subreddits way before the API changes due to basically half my feed being crap like that.

ONRYO,

On the Steam Deck subreddit for example, nearly all the posts are ‘hey I just got my Deck!’ and it’s just people fishing for upvotes.

Yeah i too hated that.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Reddit: 80% absolutely vacuous memes or self references. Gimme gimme dopamine I want more pls. 20% political news

Lemmy: Same but more like 50/50. Small percentage of very satisfying human or creative content like Reddit of old. Also every person is convinced they're right about everything and you're a moron for thinking different.

Mastodon: Everyone's a game developer or an artist, very high quality content but makes you feel useless in your life

Twitter: WTF why does Tucker Carlson live here now when did this happen

Bluesky: Lol

Meta: GREETINGS FEDIVERSE HUMANS. MAY I EXAMINE YOUR DATA FOR PURELY ETHICAL REASONS PLEASE

ONRYO,

What’s blue sky ?

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Exactly

slurpeesoforion,

Invite only (up until a few days ago) Twitter 2.0

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I was super excited for Bluesky back in the day, and in the interim before I got my invite approved I had moved on to Mastodon and friends, and now I'd be very surprised if it goes anywhere. I made no attempt to make use of the invite code I eventually got.

TheMinions,

I kind of did this with Tildes.

palebluethought,

Yeah, it has all the same problems that (pre-Musk) Twitter did. Centralization was never the problem, turns out. IMO it’s just the basic central premise that everyone is talking to everyone, all the time. When your brain does that, it’s called a seizure.

Plus tons and tons of furries, which like… you do you, but it becomes a huge ongoing effort just to keep furry porn out of a lot of the feeds, if that’s not your bag.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Yeah. Most of the success of a social network has nothing to do with "X software is better than Y software." Reddit's software wasn't really that good, ActivityPub is kind of a janky protocol; it's fine. The main success hinges on who's on the network and the quality of the interactions to be had there.

Ottomateeverything,

Most of the success of a social network has nothing to do with “X software is better than Y software.”

Literally this. Most social networks are just less-featured versions of Facebook.

Twitter was originally Facebook with no media posts and character limits. And kind of cool that you could SMS it, but hands down just worse software that ended up taking off.

Instagram was originally Facebook but images only. Then they added video. It’s just less software, but also took off.

Snapchat was Facebook but you could only send pics/video and only directly to friends. And they just removed persistence so all your shit gets deleted. Literally just missing timelines and comments. Blatantly worse software. Popular as fuck, especially with zoomers.

Social media has never been about better software. Arguably Google+ had the best software in many ways (probably the most feature rich, but UI was objectively a problem), it’s fucking dead. Social media seems to do better when it has worse software.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Social media seems to do better when it has worse software.

Or maybe, just as with creative endeavors in general, limitations do more to focus and define a social network than to bind it.

livus,
livus avatar

Twitter with fewer people.

ONRYO,

Is it foss or decentraliased ?

MudMan,
MudMan avatar

I genuinely never engaged with Reddit at all, so I'm not in a position to compare, but I don't think the numbers suggest that Reddit "is dying" or even that it got significantly impacted.

Which is fine by me. If anything, the vibe here is less Reddit and more "late 90s/early 00s forums" and that's an improvement on my book.

ONRYO,

Exactly

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

I agree with you and in a way both sides are right.

The folks who want the nice vibe and early web feel like it here better, and the ones who stayed on Reddit are happy us old hackers aren't olding up the place anymore.

NikkiNikkiNikki,
NikkiNikkiNikki avatar

You also recognize users more often on here, I run into your comments all the time. hi.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

That too. It's small enough here that I'm getting to know some folks I see a lot of. I think the profile pics help with that.

TropicalDingdong,

I mean, do people think reddit will get better once it IPOs?

MataVatnik,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Eh, I go back on Reddit every few days, it’s definitely worse. Faker, more moderated than before (tons of deleted posts and banned users). People are the same assholes as usual though so that hasn’t changed much. Also these communities take time to grow, alternatively, there is nothing wrong with them being small either.

Scubus,

Honestly I’m quite surprised it has any moderation anymore. Didn’t they gut moderating tools and alienate most of the mods? I’d’ve expected it to be a lawless wasteland

Usernameblankface,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Hmm. Yeah, I think it’s less of either one dying, but a stirring event causing a sorting.

I didn’t like what was happening over there, so I tried anything but reddit for a while, and the fediverse fit me better, so I settled here.

Zerlyna,
@Zerlyna@lemmy.world avatar

I’m in a fair amount of niche communities here.

BillDaCatt,
BillDaCatt avatar

The difference for me is Reddit started treating it's loyal users like sellable assets. I loved Reddit, it was a comfort zone for a long time, but they betrayed my trust, so I left and I have no intention of returning.

I doesn't matter if Reddit is really dead or not. They are dead to me.

NoIWontPickaName,

Amen

Slovene, (edited )

Not just the amen, but the awomen and the achildren too.

surewhynotlem,

A-them

abbadon420,

Nah, not everything is a gender issue. I respect rans people, but everything has its place and this is not the place.

Jakeroxs,

Hopefully you’re joking, it’s just a spoof on this line youtu.be/x5W2YPKH9XE?si=4NPsqHNlPGheI0GX

abbadon420,

Nice! That’s a good reference. I’ve recently got to know some transgender people and I’m struggling to differentiate with what I read online and what’s actually real in that regard. I guess my issue here is that there’s a lot of loud folks out there who do a lot of meaningless, unnecessary complaining about gender issues and spoil the issue in the public eye. I guess I’m salty about that specificly right now. I’m also a bit drunk right now, so maybe that makes my whole point moot anyways.

ChunkMcHorkle, (edited )
@ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world avatar

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ONRYO,

Me too

ONRYO,

Yeah dead to me too though now and again i go there for informarion with adblock of course.

papabobolious,

Your first part about references was one of the things I disliked the most about Reddit where someone would make a pop culture reference and it would spiral into.a comment chain of just quotes with no originality, I’m glad that hasn’t caught on in Lemmy.

My second least favourite thing, US defaultism, is alive and well on Lemmy unfortunately. On Reddit you would be told it’s an American website and to deal with it, well this is the fediverse and I don’t want to deal with it. Just say where you are from or what country news are about, it’s not much to ask.

ChunkMcHorkle, (edited )
@ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world avatar

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Blaze,
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American or not, online we’re a global community, and it never hurts to remind of that reality when needed.

Very refreshing indeed. Glad we have less to feel like we are all using a specific country’s website

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