Does the threadiverse (Lemmy + Kbin) seem ruder the last few weeks?
I dunno. I just feel less like I’m experiencing a fun new tool for communication the last few weeks. The communities here on Beehaw are still great and fantastic and aren’t what I’m bothered by. It’s just when I venture out in the world (which I often do) that I notice conversations are much more argumentative than I remember them being.
How’s everyone else doing? Is this a minor vibez check?
I haven’t noticed it. People are much nicer than on reddit. However I don’t look at politics communitys (because they think the world is the USA) so that could be it.
No not really. Just that people seem to have lost the honey moon feeling and are comfortable with downvoting shit when those first few weeks it was like a taboo to do so. And I don’t consider that rude.
I can’t tell anything about downvotes I just see how people are talking to eachother. And yeah. Honeymoon phase. I think that matches the sentiment I was using to frame what I think is going on
Has anyone noticed that downvotes have become more common too? Back when I first joined, I hardly saw any downvotes and now you see them in almost every single comment.
Wait until you trigger one of the special groups of instances… Make one off hand comment and the whole instance will brigade you. I can’t wait unit blocking a whole instance is available…
For example I don’t even how to downvote your post. (nor do I want to) Do you need to use a special Lemmy client to gain access to this functionality? Or is this because I’m from Beehaw? Either case, I don’t care ^
Beehaw elected to disable the downvote. The theory behind disabling downvotes is that its easier to have a meaningful discussion if you can say “this is why I think your comment might have some problems” instead of everyone clicking the dislike button. It also encourages users to mentally question if something is bad enough to report
I think it just comes in waves, it got bad when when the reddit API finally shuts down, then it slowly calmed down, now in the last week or so it’s starting again.
bound to happen when a community is expanded out of hate and negativity. the second people couldn’t redirect all of their anger towards reddit they turned towards others.
I came over with the initial reddit defector wave. I loved it here. You could have civil conversations, even when you disagreed with someone else. It honestly felt like the forums of the early 2000s again. Then it started getting more aggressive, and all the "well....aksually" type replies started happening. I find myself hardly on lemmy/kbin/beehaw anymore because of it.
That’s been me, too. I’ll pop in here sometimes, but overall the whole thing has ended up making me realize that social media as a whole just… Isn’t that great, actually. It’s a constant stream of little things, many of them things to be upset about that I can’t do anything about.
I’ve been spending more time instead on things like reading, that require prolonged focus on one thing, and damn if I don’t feel better this way.
Also… Beehaw and lemmy in general seems to have gotten even more tilted into hardcore FOSS/privacy/Linux culture, which is the opposite of what I hoped would happen. Privacy is important to me but I dislike Linux and I just don’t prioritize it in the way that a lot of people here do, such that they’re talking about it what feels like all the time to the exclusion of other topics.
Still, I remain here enough to type this comment. shrug
I want to try Tildes instead maybe but I think that’s still invite-only.
Me too. I suppose I was too optimistic about what Lemmy could be, eh. :( Then again, maybe these are just some additional growing pains. Time will tell!
As a ‘well, actually’ style poster, sorry I’ll calm it down a bit. I’d really like to get into Firefish or something to be able to make my own blog rather than like… pruning peoples political takes, making epicly long posts that recieve little attention, and oversharing. Maybe I’m not so good at link aggregator social media.
It’s not about needing a safe space. It’s when you say something, and then someone comes by and starts picking apart one piece of what you said. Which never even relates to the conversation at hand anyhow. Or they try to “correct” you about some ridiculously minute grammar mistake/word choice. Or even better, they interpret what you’re trying to say completely wrong, and go on the offensive.
You aren’t alone. Just this past day or two there’s been a big incident on Lemmyworld that Beehaw luckily was insulated from, so people are on high alert there. Also big news about Inmate #P01135809, Elon Musk, AI and stuff can put people on edge.
Definitely many Redditisms are back in Lemmy than before. I’m guilty of some of them on occassion still, but I try to counterbalance it by spreading kindness and appreciation around when I can.
I think they might be referring to the CSAM attack. Someone apparently flooded lemmy.world with CSAM images and a lot of people inadvertently saw them.
I think we’re safe on Beehaw but I’m not opening any inline image links I see on the fediverse just in case.
Yes you are correct, that is what I’m referring to. If you were on a Beehaw account at that time, you will have had no exposure to those images, since Beehaw is defederated.
Definitely had no exposure, just saw people who federate with both us and .world talking about it. I’m being cautious in case it happens to another instance, though.
It’s just the human condition. Humans are just plain mean and I am one of them. Humans also can’t get along anymore. Personally I blame the collapse of our society.
Not every human is like that, granted, but most are, especially online, and I am among that number. It’s not a moral condemnation, it’s just a fact.
Like Elon Musk is an idiot but it’s really almost everyone else on Twitter I am talking about, for example. Most people are predictable, vicious, nasty, mean things and I don’t like them or want to be around them. Their actions speak for themselves.
Yeah but I think it’s because it’s social media. People are very different on those platforms. Some are judging people, some are intentionally misunderstanding people, some just wants to argue, some wants to feel superior etc.
In real life people act a lot nicer, maybe because it’s not socially acceptable to be like that in real life. On the other hand, if there would be a war-like situation, some people would turn nasty real fast. In wars, you see both the worst people and the best people.
I still think most people are good. But we notice every little insulting comment, so it seems like it’s mostly bad on social media. Everyone who is quiet or don’t react, we don’t notice.
Social media is not a real representation of the world, and it’s very important to keep reminding us of that. It’s mostly young people too, and they can be cruel because of not much life experience yet.
Mine was until I decided to exercise my block button a lot more. Certain instances have a higher proportion of trolls and jerks, so that’s been frustrating. Though, it’s still worthwhile to see all the stuff and then let me curate it.
That’s the magic of federation. You can curate to create any vibe you want. Since I am on a solarpunk instance, the only ‘hate’ I see is for climate change denial.
Slrpnk is where my alt is! Its a great instance and I found it because i liked the people I was running into from there. I think its notable that your instance is literally tied to your identity
It is still exhausting to see people complaining about that kind of stuff constantly, even if you agree with them. Like my entire existence is political and when I come online I just want to get away from that.
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