Mongostein,

They should let players explore gas giants.

You get sucked in to the gravity of it, pulled towards the centre and crushed. You dead, explorer.

Metatronz,

Or get flung out in an incredible gravity slingshot! I’m down for that mini game

TheRealLinga,

Isn’t that how the Enterprise saved the Whales?!

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Sling my gooey coffin through the celestial landscape!

ScrollerBall,

In the very upper atmosphere you could have some sort of floating city.

deus,

Fuck it, make a city in the nucleus. You can only visit it if you somehow survive the absurdly high pressure and temperature down there.

Mongostein,

Maybe, but I haven’t played the game. Is this a thing in it?

Harrison,

I feel like this is a Star Wars reference, It seems unlikely there will be one in Stsrfield, human made at least

Mongostein,

Oh I know it’s a Star Wars reference, but I don’t see why another franchise couldn’t use the idea.

sebinspace,

Elite does this just fine. Go ahead and fuck around, you’re the one finding out.

MyFairJulia,
@MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately you can’t do that on Sagittarius A*. Would be cool to have someone fly into it and watch a video from the inside and see the player on the outside slowly shifting to red.

sebinspace,

My graphics card is screaming at the thought

apprehensively_human,

It makes sense in-universe. The Frame Shift Drive is hampered by sources of gravity which is seen when you get mass locked by larger ships or space stations, and why you can move faster the farther out you get from the sun. Trying to fly directly into a black hole overloads the FSD and so it throws you out of supercruise far enough away that your thrusters can’t get you there.

At least this is the way it works when approaching stars, I’m pretty sure black holes behave the same way.

MyFairJulia,
@MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

Kind of ironic since the calculations for the hyperjump require large gravity sources IIRC.

Wahots,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

I hope there’s a white dwarf deathspiral lol

BobbyNevada,

That would be great! It starts off with a computer voice, warning you about high gravity damage and increasing pressure. The klaxon siren start going off, the hull begins to groan, maybe some pressure leaks. All the while you are trying to fight the ship for control, while plummeting towards a fiery death.

Turn it a Mini game! if you win you get to escape with a little damage. If you don’t…

OverfedRaccoon,

Achievement: The Titan Challenge

Exusia,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

The moon of a gas giant, or the submarine

same result!

Deme,

To be fair, the surface pressure of Titan is the second most hospitable in the solar system, just 1.5 bars.

Catoblepas,

If that sounds fun to you you should check out Tin Can!

kadu,

Look at what liberals are doing to our games, can’t even step in a massive ball of gas smh my head

Rozauhtuno,
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Has wokeism finally gone too far?

magic_lobster_party,

I identify as a walkable rock planet! Am I right? Am I right?

(This is the only joke I know)

HopeOfTheGunblade,
HopeOfTheGunblade avatar

That's because it is the One Joke.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t be so choosy with your fiction! If I want to have an AK-47 in Baldur’s Gate, I should be able to! In fact, if i want an AK-47 in Madden, I should be able to!

chaogomu,

There are mods for that. Well, maybe not for Madden.

SkyezOpen,

Can I make my madden team naked anime girls though?

band_on_the_run,

Yes

NOPper,

Not with that attitude.

Comment105,

We can make it if we try!

CarlsIII,

Is there like an ongoing competition to see who can be the most negative over games? I’m starting to think I should just stay off the internet.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

I learned a while ago to stop caring what most idiots on the internet think about games. There is always a mix of circlejerking, rage-baiting, and sour grapes muddying the waters.

Zalack,

Much of the gaming-adjacent internet are teenagers. It will always feel cool to be against [popular thing]™ when you’re still figuring out what your identity is as an individual.

CarlsIII,

Makes sense, teenagers are the worst

Palerider,
@Palerider@feddit.uk avatar

Tell me about it. I used to be one.

MajesticSloth,
@MajesticSloth@lemmy.world avatar

I often go online after I’ve been enjoying a game to see what others think and then go…oh this was a mistake. Some seem to live to hate things.

CarlsIII,

I’ve really been enjoying Diablo IV, so…yeah….

MajesticSloth,
@MajesticSloth@lemmy.world avatar

That is one I was thinking of. I’ve been enjoying it as well.

Lev_Astov,
@Lev_Astov@lemmy.world avatar

You’re supposed to wait until you hate the game before joining the others.

orphiebaby,
@orphiebaby@lemmy.world avatar

This is not an attack on your statement, as you’re definitely right. But I just want to add this:

Some people are (understandably) complaining about the severely limited character creator in Baldur’s Gate 3, and comparing it to even middle-range ones in other modern RPGs; but many other people are attacking us as if we are trolls and we hate games, and those people are getting a lot of support. Baldur’s Gate 3 is fantastic, but the character creator sucks. We’re allowed to have nuanced opinions, right?

Poggervania,
Poggervania avatar

Dude, it’s been like this for almost 30 years. Only difference between now and then is that everybody now has an easy way to stand on a soapbox to a large audience.

CarlsIII,

That seems like a pretty huge difference to me

Poggervania,
Poggervania avatar

Yeah, it is lol. Internet’s more or less been this way since chat rooms and forums, but social media is where it really came out of the woodworks.

mateomaui,

I just checked, he’s still arguing with people about it, and trying to use wording semantics now. Stupidity knows no limits.

fsxylo,

I love semantic arguments, because unless that person is a PhD literally redefining something you automatically know you’re arguing with an idiot.

hesusingthespiritbomb,

Starfield claims that “there are over 1000 planets to explore”. If Gas Giants are included in that count despite being window dressing, then people have a right to be mad .

In general the attitude towards people complaining about video games is super toxic. Publishers will often release games that are either hopelessly buggy, lacking several key features that were promised, or monetized to an extent that the game is essentially unplayable without spending a significant amount of money.

Yet for some reason people love to shit on gamers for getting mad over this blatantly anti consumer behavior.

EvilHankVenture,

Those pictures are quite clearly taken from moons around those gas giants. I’d say that counts as more than window dressing.

julianh,

I feel like there are more important things though. Like sure, maybe the marketing number is exaggerated, but are any of the planets even interesting? Is the game fun? Is it polished? Did the development involve abuse and overwork? Like seriously, who gives a shit if there are 100 planets or 1000, you’re never going to explore all of them anyway.

CitizenKong,

They made it pretty clear from the beginning that most of those planets will be barren, with procedurally generated stuff like minerals to mine.

MonkderZweite,

So, Empyrion but with less content?

SCB,

There has been no indication about amount of content whatsoever in Starfield.

BruceTwarzen,

There was that shift in gaming when assasins creed came out. Maps had to be big and bigger. The bigger the better. I was one of the poeople always on the lookout for bigfer maps. But honestly, most of them are just shit and boring, so what's the point? The whole trend simmered down a lot, but now Bethesda is trying to cash in on it again and it kinda seems to work. There is absolutely no way it's interesting to "discover" these planets. As far as i understand it you can only fly to a POI and then walk around there. And then cutscene fly your way to the next point. Seems boring as hell and a colossal waste of money. They could've made 5 great planets to explore, do people know how big a planet is?

nogrub,

to be honest i’d rather have fewer planets with more to do than a 1000 planets with less details and less to do but thats only my oppinion and we’ll see how the game is when it comes out. i for my part have 0 hype for it because then i can enjoy it and not be disappointed

batmaniam,

Because I’m also trying to stay off the hype train, do you happen to know how going planet to planet works? I really wasn’t a huge fan of how it worked in Outer Worlds. One thing I like about the morrowind/fallout/skyrim sandboxes is being able to just pick a direction and stumble about. No Man’s sky is a whole conversation (about a bad game, that heroically became an OK if flawed game) but I really liked how you got in your ship and just… left.

nogrub,

i have only seen one trailer for starfield so i don’t know anything about the game. i’m gonna watch how the launch plays out and decide if i wanna get it at launch or wait until modders fixed the game. i want to be surprised when i first play it :)

CoderKat,

Yeah. I far preferred the carefully designed planets of Mass Effect (at least those that weren’t boring Mako planets of ME1) over the more limited procedurally generated planets of No Man’s Sky (which lacked support for stuff like cities).

orphiebaby,
@orphiebaby@lemmy.world avatar

There will always be a lot of instinctive retaliation from people who criticize even the slightest aspect of something they love. Some people just can’t think in nuance, I guess.

Lanusensei87,
@Lanusensei87@lemmy.world avatar

Admittedly, a gas giant could be a very interesting setting to explore, given enough artistic liberties. But let’s see if they can get the normal planet exploration first.

s20,

This is Bethesda we’re talking about. I’ll be impressed if half the other spaceships aren’t flying backwards.

half_built_pyramids,

Kisses it gets so worse

Buffaloaf,

😗

kromem,

It was very interesting in Outer Wilds.

Polydextrous,

Is this screenshot from baldurs gate?

JohnDClay,

Eventually if you get low enough down in Jupiter, you might get to a surface of metallic hydrogen

beefcat, (edited )
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

Though your ship will probably have OceanGated long before you get that deep into the liquid hydrogen mantle.

leftzero,

As professor Farnsworth said when asked how many atmospheres the Planet Express ship could withstand: “Well, it’s a spaceship, so I’d say anywhere between zero and one”.

Metatronz,

Makeup the super experimental deep ‘sea’ (gas giant) diver of the day. Sounds like interesting gameplay.

Rinna, (edited )
@Rinna@lemm.ee avatar

I’ve seen some SciFi media with floating cities on planets with thick atmospheres, such as gas giants or Venus. It’s a neat concept imo that I’d like to see more.

flerp,

Indeed. If I’m recalling correctly there was one somewhat obscure little film a while back that had something like that. It was called something like Empire Fights Back or something, can’t quite recall. Not sure if anyone has seen that one or not.

qyron,

Isn’t that one where an estranged father and son reunite?

clay_pidgin,

The son was a terrorist, wasn’t he?

hsr,
@hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Brainwashed by an ancient cult, no less.

qyron,

Known for only taking in children of tender age.

Silentiea,

Real culty shit, too, they had like, rules about no love or marriages and stuff

BeautifulMind,
@BeautifulMind@lemmy.world avatar

The problem with that really is that on a gas giant the physics are a nightmare- gravity is unlivable, by the point in the atmosphere you get to dense-enough fluid to float anything, it’s extremely hot and turbulent. If you dropped a modern submarine into Jupiter’s atmosphere, by the time it got there it would be molten and well beyond its crush pressure.

On Earth, the pressure/density point (in water) that will float a boat occurs at a low enough pressure and temperature to be survivable by life as we know it- but on Jupiter when you’ve got to the point that it’s dense enough to float anything, it’s also hotter than the surface of the sun.

Cloud City on Bespin is a super-cool concept but realistically nothing like that can work on a gas giant unless your sci-fi universe also provides magic antigravity to keep the gravity-well from crushing you lifeless.

TheOakTree,

Maybe if it were a civilization of creatures with exoskeletons, low height, and a low surface area to volume ratio (think fleas, ticks)? Probably still not. It’s just completely unfeasible for humanoids.

SGforce,

Balloons or large surface area.

Rinna,
@Rinna@lemm.ee avatar

Well yeah, I wasn’t expecting something like this to be practical in the real world.

BeautifulMind,
@BeautifulMind@lemmy.world avatar

No you’re still right, it’s super-cool. I meant my response to be informative or helpful, sorry if it came off as invalidating or wet-blankety

orphiebaby,
@orphiebaby@lemmy.world avatar

I myself knew you were just being informative, and I loved reading it ^^

Rinna,
@Rinna@lemm.ee avatar

It’s fine lol

Duamerthrax,

Honestly, flying into the upper atmosphere of a gas giant and finding floating ecosystems sounds pretty cool.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Should be top comment.

Toneswirly,

Even if there were a thousand gas giants to explore, you’d still be playing a Bethesda game

TheBlue22,

He is either trolling or his stupidity is impossible to comprehend

PeterPoopshit,

Isn’t this the moron idiot that stole copies of Starfield and posted the leaked content on his personal social media or was that a different moron idiot?

Legendsofanus,
@Legendsofanus@lemmy.world avatar

What do you call a group of moron idiots?

Confuzzeled,

Idioms? Mediots?

Skalbagge,

Redditors hehehehe

Smacks,
@Smacks@lemmy.world avatar

Smartest Twitter X user

LordOfTheChia,

X user

X’creter

ToyDork,

Dibs.

Noctis,
@Noctis@lemmy.world avatar

Sony fanboys picking every nit they can find.

CarlsIII,

I didn’t understand what you meant until I looked at their profile. Holy shit, this person has problems!

InternetTubes,

Cloud City was on Bespin, which was literally a gas giant. It is supposed to be science fiction. Now I won’t be able to fulfill my dream of setting up my own penal colony within the confines of a gas giant :(

Anyway, this is either just childish or trolling, but if we want to talk about who’s confidently incorrect, it can go either way.

MrMobius,

Would have been funny to let players “try” to land on a gas giant, just before dying from the enormous magnetic field/wind strength/pressure. A hard lesson in astrophysics right?

jayandp,

That would legit be hilarious. Make it an achievement too!

bingbong,

Achievement unlocked:

Feeling a little gassy

jayandp,

“Overworked, Under Pressure”

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