Yeah, just a second ago. Probably, something to do with Firefox. Anyway, articles these days are becoming superficial. What could be said in a few words takes an entire paragraph for some reason. Writer’s skills are on a downward trend recently. Not liking it
Yeah you have to make it longer…can’t place 15 ads on a text with one paragraph
I especially love the cases where I want to check if and when series xy continues “get the Release Date of Series XY season 5” And then there is a wall of text that summarizes season 1-4 and how everybody is waiting for season 5 to then say that the date is not out yet…
Hey motherfucker, did you know you can go AD FREE with YouTube™ premium? Look, it’s P R E M I U M. and it will only cost you $9.99 a month (plus any data we choose to siphon from you, aaaaaaand you have to be subjected to our shit-ass suggestions that you will almost certainly not be interested in, because fuck you in your stupid content sucking mouth)
Mine are totally fucked, but it is because I let my kid use my account sometimes and now YouTube just doesn't understand me as a person. It suggests stuff that neither of us want. But when I clear history and it just uses my subscriptions it is better.
He has one, but it is a child account which a couple of the people he watches aren't available. They are just game streamers and don't say or do anything I take issue with. So he often ends up on mine. I don't have another family spot to make another account for him and I have YouTube premium. So it is what it is. Means I don't end up wasting hours watching videos on YouTube because of a rabbit hole so there is that silver lining I suppose.
You know what annoys me the most about this?
I looked up the price of Premium. It’s not great but not too bad either. I hate subscription services so I thought “I’ll just buy the annual plan”
Google doesn’t offer the Family Annual plan in my region. Only Individual Annual.
Fucks sake Google! If I’m trying to give you money, the least you could have done is make it easy!
Me personally, I didn’t mind ads back in the day when they weren’t so annoying. But somehow YouTube + content creators made ads so annoying at some point that I started to use ad blocker and sponsor skipper.
My theory is that by becoming so aggressive with ads , YouTube income / video actuallly decreased due to people getting fed up with ads and getting ad blockers. Now they go even more aggressive so people will start to look for alternatives.
It’ll be interesting to see following development.
That’s when my family asked me to set up adblockers.
It used to be a single 30 second ad but skippable.
It’s now 2 ads skippable, then ads randomly injected into a video. A ten min video can have twelve ads. Defenders say “Oh the content maker sets those features.”
Of which I say, “Bet. Gonna block them, find a new revenue stream because the next stage is pirating your shit.”
Also i love how people act as if Ads aren’t brainwashing bullshit lies. Marketing only exists to make you click buy, they don’t care about any other effect. Misinformation? Who cares, unhealthy habits? All good. Oh my goodness your blocking lies? Sooo unethical
Me personally because I don’t have a Google account nor saw a real gain in getting one (for what I do in my day to day), I just switched to these for subscriptions.
+to that. However I haven’t found proper alternative yet.
I got so used that dump algorithm that at least 40% of times recommends what I’m actually interested at, that it feels so hard to go back to watch unordered vids
Newer content is still lacking on alternatives. Like coding tutorials or documentaries etc.
On the other hand I found many old forgotten internet classics on these alternative sites like old ads and funny clips that we used to watch at 240p back in the day.
Point one hits home. It’s nice that I can look through my feed but I also want to find new stuff and piped is not giving me that. I still use it in case my yt account gets banned lol
I get that losing something you previously had access to is frustrating, but people here act like they should have the privilege to get YouTube for free. That’s not how a company works.
Who here expected a company like this to pass up on making more money by allowing add blockers? You were cheating the system, and the system caught up. It sucks. Either find a new way to cheat the system or accept that they won.
YouTube has too many ads to begin with even before watching a video. I really don’t mind if I have to watch an ad after watching 2 or more videos but imagine getting 2 ads for every video and an ad after a part of the video. Doesn’t YouTube just want to milk money as much as it can from the non YouTube premium subscribers?
Yes, as is the right of the company as it’s their service. People pretend it’s unfair for Google to monetise YT and they should get access to YT unrestricted just because they found a way to use add blockers. Yt is free to try and monetise their service as good as they can, whether we like it or not
I still get ads on twitch from time to time but it’s just a 20sec thing at the start and once an hour or so. YouTube tho is unusable. Friends and I tried to get through ONE video on the discord YouTube activity and it’s horrible. Every 5 minutes the same annoying bullshit. If it does not drive you insane, there is something wrong with you.
Only other legal option would be premium but I don’t want to
I’m not saying the ads on Yt are acceptable, there’s no argument from me there. I’m saying a lot of people here are saying a company charging time or money for their services is wrong, and I disagree with that. It’s fair for Google to charge or give ads, and it’s fair for us to flock away because of it.
Google owes you nothing, and you don’t owe Google anything either.
I dont know why you’re downvoting cuz you are telling the truth. We can whine all we want but in the end there’s always a workaround when you put some effort in it
No, what happens is that a timer is added before you can click the X to close the pop-up. If you continue to close it, video playback will be locked until you disable your ad-block (or circumvent the detection).
That seems unlikely. I can see them blocking you as long as they detect ad block but not banning account / IP wise. It would lead to many non-tech people to be banned without understanding why and those are majority of their viewers who are easiest manipulated into watching ads.
Ads on YouTube–like everywhere else on the web–became so obtrusive that it’s nearly impossible to view anything while still having all those ads. They’re making their content unwatchable for anyone who can’t pony up for a subscription.
/r/assholedesign refers to user hostile design. Ads are generally unwanted and def unwanted if the person has an ad blocker. Putting a nag pop up is inherently user hostile.
At first, they had few ads, or ads that were always skippable
Now that they have a near monopoly, they’re adding more ads, and making more of them unskippable.
To watch a lifesaving video, that was posted at a time when there were no real ads or all ads were skippable, you may have to watch a series of 30 second ads.
Then there’s the fact that virtually every video requires ads before you view it, when you might only need to see 10s of the video to know that it’s not relevant. Putting multiple ads before you’re allowed to see those 10 seconds is an asshole move. Then there’s the sheer quantity of ads. The last time I tried to watch a few music videos without an ad blocker I think it was at least 25% ad time.
Removing the ability to skip is also a major asshole move. The whole justification for skippable ads was that consumers wouldn’t skip ads that were good and relevant. If the advertiser was doing their job and making good ads, and YouTube was doing a good job and finding the right audience for those ads, then in theory the ads wouldn’t be skipped. If an advertiser was upset that users were skipping ads, YouTube could push back and say that either their ad sucked, or that they had mistargeted the ad. Now they seem to be admitting that their ad targeting is bullshit, or that they don’t care if the ad isn’t relevant to the user, the user has to watch it regardless.
But, most of this hinges on the enshittification happening once the platform has become a monopoly. If YouTube only had a 20% market share, asshole moves would push people to competitors. But, the key thing is that they lost money or barely broke even until all their competitors had folded, and then they started making things worse.
Who is going to be competing for the eyeballs of people who militantly refuse to watch ads? I’d love to see YouTube have competition, but I don’t think the demographic here is particularly valuable to anyone.
Same with lemmy. Who cares about us? Seems to be working somewhat tho.
Issue with videohosting is filesizes, bandwiths, and the gigantic archive.
That’s why I said surprising competition: no, it wouldn’t be from a big typical tech company.
I think you’re wrong on the value of the demographic: there are definitely ways, sectors etc where a small group of relatively tech savvy, ad-hating, very critical, neckbearded, moob carrying people is more valuable than a large mob of typical yay-saying consumers. I’ld even say it’s the kind of niche demographic that made reddit big in the first place.
The status quo is acceptable so people use it. It works well enough and it’s practical enough that the majority of the user base sticks with a given standard, which creates momentum/inertia: the more accepted a given platform becomes the more content creators cater to it, which in turn draws and keeps more traffic.
Owners of the platform see this and monetize. It’s not bad at first but eventually greed gets the better of everyone, and they keep pushing and squeezing, usually both the base and the creators, for the privilege of playing in their playground, the defacto “place to be”… without consideration of the fact that their playground only holds that status because of the very people they’re squeezing.
Eventually they push it too far, and people start to jump ship as the enshittification finally tips their scales away from the status quo and makes finding an alternative the more attractive choice, even if it means giving up the positive aspects of the established platform.
Sometimes it can take a while but eventually one or more new platforms emerge as the new “place to be” and the cycle begins again.
Unfortunately, rather than learning from past mistakes and simply being less greedy and understanding that they need to find ways of generating profit that doesn’t alienate their creators and viewers, instead the lesson learned seems to be ‘try to find ways to trap users in your system so they can’t leave’…which never is going to work.
They wouldn’t have anything to host if not for creators making desirable content. They don’t treat their creators with any amount of respect and they expect to make money off of work they didn’t do. And creators have no say as to whether or not there are ads on their own work, like it or not daddy YouTube will put an ad on that video and make money from it.
If YouTube wants me to watch ads they need to work on that. Oh, and they need to do a better job about what kind of ads they allow on their site.
Yup. I don’t want my money going to YouTube. Instead I support the creators I like via Patreon or buying merch. Did you think giving money to YouTube was the only option?
How are you complaining about youtube treatment if u pay patreon instead ?? Obviously they have to force ads on your creators if u dont pay them instead, how thick are you lmfao
Also “They expect to make money off work they didnt do” ? They pay for hosting and bandwidth, people upload 500 hours of video per minute on youtube, you think thats free? Youtube kids so simpleminded istg
Patreon exists because of YouTube underpaying people. I’m not sure how you think calling me stupid is supposed to help, and I’m not sure why you are so adamantly defending a multi-billion dollar company. You know Google isn’t your buddy, right?
Doesn’t sub to youtube, claims they underpay them. Being told video hosting isn’t free = I’m their buddy. Should I call patreon your buddy by your logic? You’re not stupid, just your logic don’t worry 🤭
I figured there were enough dumbdumbs still watching ads that it didn't matter a whole lot if I didn't watch any. I'm still not getting ads so this change hasn't affected me yet. Still, fuck YouTube anyway.
I’ve paid for YouTube premium pretty much since it started being a thing and had to drop it recently for financial reasons. Simply existing these days feels like I’m drowning. The bombardment of ads and frequent notifications to come back are making me want to ditch YouTube entirely. I’ve been using YouTube in Firefox with desktop site requested to play my videos in the background and I try to use odysee as much as possible now. Their price hikes along with no recognition of how long I’ve been a paying member has really gotten to me.
You see, if you are unable to cough up the money for one reason or another, you are not important to them anymore. It’s better for YouTube if you don’t watch than if you watch without premium, so they bully you until you leave. There is no “grace period” just because you supported them for years. Corporations are not your friends and the only thing that matters to them is infinite growth.
Once upon a time, streaming services were free, or gave you a generous amount of content for a small price.
Now, not only does everybody and their mom want to make you subscribe to something, they’re also constantly and unapologetically raising prices whilst removing features or extracting useful/necessary features and placing them in new, expensive premium tiers.
Sure, get a family plan and split, and watch them slowly raise prices to “match inflation” or some other bs excuse!
There are definitely solutions out there, and I’m sure someone will come up with a way to spoof YouTube premium or something and the war will continue.
I won’t say ‘pirate everything’, because you shouldn’t; there are definitely services out there that are worth your money. But if they’re going to play using scummy tactics then I don’t see why we can’t as well!
The amount of bootlicking YouTube premium users in these threads astonish me. Wonder how they’d feel when it’s $150+ per year and the value proposition completely ceases to exist.
Already there: it’s 11.99€/mo. in Germany. Per year, that’s 143.88€ and converted to USD that would be $151.63/year.
If you are an Apple fanboy, YT charges the Apple Store fee on-top and your YouTube Premium will cost 15.99€/mo. or, converted, $202.25/year. But no sympathy for Apple fanboys, so I couldn’t care less about that.
Subscription services are so scummy that I wonder why they are even allowed. They removed YT Premium Lite and now FORCE you to also subscribe to YT Music even if you don’t want or need it. That’s predatory and exploitative and the only reason for not giving customers the option to just pay for ad-free videos is greed. In reality it went like this: they set up an infrastructure for a music streaming service and invested money to do so. People are not interested at all in their music streaming service, so they are not recouping the cost. Easy corporate solution is to bundle the shit nobody wants with the shit everybody needs to justify an insane price hike. Ta-da!
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