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Esthergen, in Debian 12 "Bookworm" -- Release Notes
Esthergen avatar

Might be my favorite release of Debian yet. Absolutely prime for desktop use should anyone want to try Debian.

Ironbeagle, in Debian 12 "Bookworm" -- Release Notes

I am enjoying Debian 12. I have it on my main PC.

I also added flatpak for when I need a newer version of an application than the repository provides.

Nefyedardu, in Is there a guide that you would recommend to a Fedora refugee?

? How does the decision of Red Hat effect Fedora in any way?

PabloDiscobar,
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It changes the adoption process.

Fedora is very accessible to a new linux user. He can then switch to centos for his server needs and make his tests, to host the server of his guild for example. And then move to rhel for his job. And he will stick to Fedora for his home usage. That's a solid population to ask support questions to.

With the end of centos/clones, it means there is no testbench for servers anymore for the fedora crowd. They now have to jump to the paid rhel version or not do it at all. Centos stream is not something that you want to run services on. That's not the real deal like centos/clones was.

The hobbyists who ran centos/clones and who never jumped to rhel will also be confronted to the choice of running fedora and another complete different system like debian server. In this situation they will probably change their server distro as well and adopt the light version of it for their home usage. To emerge themselves into the new ecosystem. Why would you split your habits on 2 different type of distro?

And finally there is the trust part. If IBM can shut down centos/clones in one day without flinching, what could possibly happen to Fedora? I had my doubt during the acquisition, I don't have doubt anymore.

There is a lot of reasons why debian or ubuntu or suse will see fedora refugees coming to their shore.

Nefyedardu,

For personal use you can use RHEL for free. Otherwise, you can definitely run Centos still. Sure it won't be as rock solid as RHEL but you could do far worse. The current Centos stream image is about as conservative as Debian 11 and RH devs are paid to make sure it's stable. Personally I run Fedora and Debian, it's not like there is much functional difference between distros if you use containerization.

RH can't even shut down Fedora if they wanted, it's a community project. I don't see what they would have against Fedora, it gives them free beta testing and development for their products.

Nyaa, in Is there a guide that you would recommend to a Fedora refugee?
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  • PabloDiscobar,
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    Why would I break Debian? Listen, all I want is my nVidia drivers, which I'm installing right now btw, and so fa

    tal, in LXD is now natively available in Bookworm repository (snap free)
    tal avatar

    For those of us not familiar with lxd, could you summarize what it's presently mainly used for? It looks to me like it's a container system with a higher level of isolation than lxc, but is it principally interesting for deploying server software in a VPS-per-machine to try to limits the impact of a compromised server? Playing video games from unknown and potentially-untrusted sources? People reselling VPS service?

    Skimming the tools page, I'm guessing maybe a little of #1 and a little of #3, but couldn't say for sure.

    Linux-Is-Best,
    Linux-Is-Best avatar

    This guy does a excellent job on explaining not only the details, but the terminology too, and how to install, use, and configure. So I'm going to share this video for you and even the newbies who stumble over this post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIwgPKkVj8s

    tal,
    tal avatar

    Ah, okay. It's apparently a system for managing lxc containers.

    Looking at the main page, it apparently targets both individual applications and full containerized systems.

    Chuck-Shepherd505, in LXD is now natively available in Bookworm repository (snap free)

    Fuck Canonical

    fungihead, in RealVNC Packages für 11 and 12 with no trial and licence

    If you just want a VNC server use one of the other ones, tightvnc or tigervnc. There’s a client called vinagre which supports a few protocols including VNC as long as you have the right client packages installed.

    Ssh is usually the way to go on Linux though, much more useful once you know the cli. It’s been quite a while since I’ve used VNC.

    Luci, in LXD is now natively available in Bookworm repository (snap free)
    @Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

    I never understood why LXD was released as a snap primarily. Feels odd for something you’d install on a server.

    dream_weasel, in Is there a guide that you would recommend to a Fedora refugee?
    nitpicking, in There are no kbin apps in the Debian repos

    You can request that kbin be packaged here: https://wiki.debian.org/RFP

    If you're techie enough, you could even volunteer to be the Debian maintainer.

    diyrebel,

    I appreciate the link to the RFP page. But to be clear, I was surveying to find out if there even exists any kbin client to speak of. AFAICT, there are none.

    nitpicking,

    Debian tends to be pretty conservative, and kbin is currently a pretty niche application that's only of interest to server admins. So, I suspect you're right. It probably wouldn't be packaged until a Debian Developer happens to be interested in it.

    nitpicking, in xscreensaver appears only on one of two monitors

    FWIW, this doesn't happen in KDE, only in XFCE4. I am ... mystified.

    KDE has its own problems, of course. Nothing is ever simple.

    HR_Pufnstuf, in xscreensaver appears only on one of two monitors

    You might want to notice the name appears to read in the singular, not the plural. Just saying.

    brennor, in apt-update asking for cd - how to resolve?

    Check /etc/apt/sources.list and see if there is a line that starts with

    deb cdrom:

    in there, if so comment it out. You'll have to update after updating the sources.

    bookworm, in apt-update asking for cd - how to resolve?

    worked like a charm!thanks!!

    brennor,

    You're welcome, glad you got it sorted.

    brennor, in Software Center showing infinity loop - how to resolve?

    Can you share a screenshot?

    bookworm,
    bookworm,
    brennor,

    I'm not sure, I don't use the software center at all. How long have you let it run for? It is possible that there is just a bunch of processing going on to update after removing the cdrom sources list.

    You might find some additional information in /var/log/apt/term.log. Watching that log file while launching the software center might provide additional insight.

    tail -f /var/log/apt/term.log

    bookworm,

    when triggered via terminal,logfile is ending,before the center can even be launched.
    so,how can that log file be watched,while the software center is launching?

    brennor,

    using a -F instead of -f will follow the log file even if it is truncated or rotated.

    bookworm,

    still ending,seemingly.how can it be followed,even if truncated or rotated?

    bookworm,

    rebooting did the trick,so resolved now.

    brennor,

    Ah, I didn't understand. "Log ended" means that the run completed. I'm glad you've got a resolution. Usually Linux is pretty good about not needing a reboot.

    bookworm,

    didnt understand either.log was ending,before the sw center could get started.am glad,that rebooting,got it back running again.sometimes it is doing miracles.

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