Mobile apps for this sort of thing is quite alien to me – out of sight and out of mind because I cannot imagine using a small screen and tiny keyboard for forums when I am all day sitting at a PC with proper keyboard. Although speech to text probably makes small device input a little more tolerable.
The small nodes are not dead, so I wonder if the activity and accounts on the disproportionately small nodes can be attributed largely to mobile app users.
Well, the vast majority of people who came here about a year ago from Reddit did so explicitly because of the 3rd party app situation (and many of the app devs came as well), making apps a massive priority for Lemmy as a byproduct. As a direct result, we have tons of options for the size of the platform (I believe iOS has about a dozen apps/PWAs and roughly the same for android, and afaik only 2-3 of them cross-platform).
It’s probably fair to say most of those individuals are still using the apps by default if they are still on Lemmy, even if you don’t see how that’s desirable. And they are an option for new users as well who haven’t gotten used to any of it yet.
So the issue you are talking about is not solved by apps with multi-account support, because we’ve had that for a large portion of users for many many months. The people who would be creating secondary and tertiary accounts are going to do that anyway. Plus it’s not like it’s difficult to navigate to a different webpage on web and sign in to that. I manage my account stuff on the web versions of my instances, and never had a problem getting between them. You could probably even have multiple accounts logged into multiple tabs without issue (I haven’t tried, so unsure)
I’m on a smaller instance because I wanted to be. I have another account that I made before this on a large instance, because I didn’t understand the fediverse or instances, or how to find one. People mostly start on larger instances because they can find them (the apps have lists of default instances to sign up with, for example, which are mostly bigger ones), and most stay there because it’s easier. Sometimes they get sick of the drama or the issues and move somewhere smaller like I did. They actively want to be on a smaller instance, whether because they understand the value of spreading out or because they just don’t want to be on one of the big instances that causes drama or whatever.
It absolutely is being made in good faith. The way they treat the rest of the federation is appalling. One need only look at their complete and utter disrespect of the lemmy devs to see that they don’t want to be here and we don’t want them here either. My anger is very justified.
Honestly the way you’re ban-baiting seems to suggest you’re one of them, wouldn’t be that far off from the way they handle dissenters. Instead of engaging in good faith just use your position of power to shut down anything you find distasteful, it’s disgusting behavior.
You’re evil. You can practically feel the liberal violence emanating off the tone of your messages alone. I would hope everyone else here can see that too… That’s beyond fucked up.
The long term viability given the core developers is a question I’ve definitely pondered. The low priority for moderator features is especially concerning. Didn’t realize they also were petty.
“it’s compatibility with other Fediverse software is currently very limited”
I think the interaction between Lemmy and other Fediverse accounts is going quite well. Especially when posts are written from Mastodon etc. to a Lemmy community, things have improved a lot recently (e.g. when hashtags or links are in the headline)
I agree that these are ways to improve the moderation of Lemmy instances.
But the fact that implementation of any improvements to moderation tools has been glacially slow tells me that we should manage our expectations of having very extensive improvements as suggested here.
But also thank you for documenting these ideas as it’s a big step in manifestation of improved experiences.
The more these ideas spread the more platforms will consider them. I don’t have any hope left for Lemmy in regards to moderation but thanks to this post I learned Misskey already implements this kind of feature.
My honest Q: is this really federation how mastodon and lemmy and activitypub does it, where anyone can host an instance of a community for public or private use, or is it just selfhosting your personal data?
It’s a step in the right direction but people who like fediverse stuff don’t like the idea of there being one corporation (in this case Bluesky LLC PBC) having total control of moderation, public post data, etc.
I’m not sure. I think it will be a moderation nightmare plus a lot of commercialization of accounts. Threads is already full of light-pornography bot accounts. I hope that it doesn’t overwhelm admins and mods on instances that federate.
I don’t think people who are using Threads are or will be aware of Lemmy, Kbin, or future services that are Reddit-like with or without federation.
Lemmy federation with Mastodon and similar services is clunky at best. Kbin having the best cross service type handling as it focused on exactly that is indicative of how poor the federation of cross service communication is overall.
I think adding Threads to this mix is not going to be pleasant for users of either service or adnins of Lemmy instances.
Lemmy fucking sucks compared to reddit also. I said it. It’s way worse here. The mods are absolutely ridiculous and the echo chamber effect here is insanity. Yes, the echos are more in line with my views but like… that’s not changing the fact that it’s just another echo chamber in the control of a few power Hu gry mods that aren’t accountable to anyone and abuse power to coerce the population.
Just saying. Now you can be toxic to me for my opinion, and prove me right lol. Have fun
Explain to me the impetus behind you even deciding you needed to type this out, in response to what I said?
Heaven forbid I try to ride something out to see if it gets better or make comments to highlight the things that I would like to see changed. Fuck me I suppose lmao.
imagine a world full of people who fine with everything as-is… nothing would ever improve. No imagine telling somebody who wants something to be better that they should just go away. It’s what you’ve done.
I understand that ubermeisters has been confrontational and that’s annoying as fuck. But your reply, even with clear good intentions, feeds the negativity with its tone. Had you not included the second sentence, you would have gotten your message across clearly without negativity. I get it though, ubermeisters attitude does them no favors and is irritating. Sometimes is best to just let it go and maybe even block people who aren’t a positive influence to your own mental health.
I think the problem is just that Lemmy is small still. As it gets larger it will be arguably much harder for anyone to control things. That said, the echo chamber effect is going to happen no matter what because of how human social interactions work. People tend to gravitate to places that agree with them, and as (American) political discourse continues on its current track, there will be even less middle ground possible to encourage any sort of interaction. Pair that with the (American) right’s being okay with groups of people that wish to infringe on other people’s right to exist and it makes a lot of sense the groups wouldn’t wish to interact.
Your experience is valid and I’m sure a lot of people share it. I’m using Discuss.Online differently than Reddit and have been enjoying it more as a result, but the software leaves a lot to be desired and there are fewer communities I’m interested in and of those many are sparsely interacted with by others. There are a few subreddits that died off and never established a federated alternative too.
Hey, your criticisms are welcome, and you’re entitled to your opinion on your Lemmy experience.
May I gently suggest to you a couple things?
First, it appears you are spending the largest amount of time on lemmy.world and lemmy.ml. Perhaps you could take advantage of Lemmy’s de-centralized nature, and join or participate in more communities that are not run by power hungry mods. slrpnk.net, lemm.ee, sopuli.xyz, mander.xyz etc… In my experience, lemmy.world is the server most Reddit-like, lemmy.ml is run by tankie idealists, whereas others are principled in other ways. Operators of other servers could be more in line with what you’d want out of a social media platform.
Second, with all due respect, some of your comments seem to have attitude. Consider this very comment I’m replying to, inviting people to flame you for presenting a negative review of Lemmy. Approaching conversations in an empathetic and compassionate manner may reduce the frequency in which you receive snarky or toxic replies.
You don’t have to take any of this advice, these are my suggestions for you.
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