boywar3

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Do we need to create increasingly more children for a stable economy?

So in the whole anti-natalism/pro-natalism conversation (which I’m mostly agnostic/undecided on, currently), my friend who is a pro-natalist, argued that the success/stability of our world economy is dependent on procreating more children each year than the previous year, so that we not only replace the numbers of the people...

boywar3,

Is your friend a Cold-War era Romanian dictator?

boywar3,

Same lol

Between that and the random shit it has listed as what I get ads for…it isn’t a whole lot. I spend most of time looking up highly specific things on Wikipedia or out of immediate utility, so I suppose I’m just not that interesting…also ublock origin ftw

boywar3,

This is obviously just bait lol

That said, the comments on that site are pretty funny.

My favorite is the dude crying about how the Arabs stole Israel from the Jews whereas the Jews got it from God. Like, did he not read the Bible? What happened to the Canaanites???

Good times…

boywar3,

I’m of the mind that she is of use to my current aims so I’m indifferent to her, but at the end of the day she is still probably not on my side completely.

I’ll take her essentially speaking against Republicans and being rich if it means Republicans lose because of it.

boywar3,

It arguably gets better than that - the 61 billion was already spent on making the things; Ukraine isn’t just getting $61 billion handed over to it lol

boywar3,

NPR getting attacked by Republicans for following basic journalistic integrity and combating disinformation. Maybe it wouldn’t have such a “liveral slant”" if Republicans stopped consistently lying lol

boywar3,

Assuming this article is even true, which is dubious, it’s a complete nothingburger, lol

It’s just more pathetic culture war bullshit because conservatives keep racking up Ls and have little to show the American people. It’s so much easier to screech about “wokes and immigrants are destroying this nation” than to actually attempt to fix the problems that matter, like climate change, the economy, and our aging infrastructure (of course, this is also due to he Republicans being bought and paid for by business interests that want to undermine fixing these issues).

Any time I see some nutjob republican make some big sweeping “anti-woke” legislation, I stop and ask myself: “How does this help the average American in ways that actually matter to them?” Usually, the answer is,“it doesn’t.”

boywar3,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/923bb4c2-0b28-490a-be3c-1d75acd4932e.jpeg

Looks great! Yours is better than mine! What camera did you use?

boywar3,

That makes sense, we used a Nikon D7500 with a 300mm lens f/6.8 iso 1000

It was very last minute too, so we only got a handful of shots before time ran out haha

boywar3,

“If you violate the Geneva Convention, your people don’t get the protections of it” seems like a pretty reasonable way to justify the bombings tbh

In any case, there are some important considerations to be made here too:

After the horrors of Okinawa, US leadership expected a million casualties to take Japan itself, to the point where the Navy wanted to simply blockade Japan into submission. Given the Japanese civilians were already eating acorns and tree bark, and the military’s entire outward appearance was to never surrender, it isn’t unreasonable to assume Japan wouldn’t have given up.

Of course, the Japanese were refusing to surrender to the US in order to surrender through the USSR in hopes of getting a better deal (protect the emperor, no war crime trials, etc.). Of course, the Soviets invaded Manchuria and dashed all hopes of that, which, according to many people, was the real reason for Japan’s surrender.

It is a bit murky, but in response to the bombings and the invasion, there was a meeting on August 9th of the highest ranks of the Japanese government where it was determined that surrender was the only option and plans were drawn up to do so. However, on the 14th, there was an attempted coup by some army officers to continue the war, which failed after several high ranking officials refused to comply, among other things.

All of this taken together is not to say “the bombings were necessary,” but rather to show the situation as it developed, and how many different things could have gone wrong and dragged the war on for longer (side note: Japan still held a lot of territory and there were plans to liquidate POWs and the like in the event of surrender)

Was it right to vaporize thousands? In a vacuum, no, certainly not. But in the complex context of a war in which millions had already died and millions more still very well could have, its tough to say.

boywar3,

I mean, sure it’s horrible, but again, understanding the context behind decisions is important to getting a full idea of why something was done.

Take something like strategic bombing, which killed more people by a country mile than the atomic bombings. Does anyone bitch on the same level about how many people were killed by regular bombing? Hell, Operation Meetinghouse (the firebombing of Toyko in March 1945) killed something like 150k people in a single raid, and nobody says a goddamned word about it outside of historical circles.

At the end of the day, the idea behind strategic bombing (in the case of the Allies) was that it was a good way to damage the enemy’s war effort. The killing of civilians wasn’t the objective (unlike the Germans, who explicitly employed terror bombing of civilians as a tactic). Its the cold calculus of fighting a modern war - the enemy’s capacity to fight is the ability for them to make more things to fight with, so eliminating that capacity by demolishing factories and houses is a good strategy. The killing of civilians wasn’t the objective necessarily - breaking the apparatus they participated in was.

In some ways it’s actually better to simply leave millions homeless instead of killing them, as the enemy must house and feed these people instead of using those resources for fighting…

Either way, would you have rather the US blockaded Japan to death to force a surrender? Killing untold numbers of civilians from starvation and disease than a relatively small number of civilians in 2 places? Maybe we wouldn’t have needed to if the Russian invasion was enough to scare them into surrender, but we’ll never know that for sure…

What would you have done against an enemy that gave every indication they were planning to fight to the death?

boywar3, (edited )

Interesting fact about this document is that from what I recall, the air force pushed hard on the idea that bombing alone would be sufficient to win in an effort to secure funding when the US military downsized post-war. I’d fake its findings with at least a little grain of salt.

Also, it’s not like we could really have simply sat on our hands until December…the American public wanted results and the cost if the war was astronomical already, so adding on months of mobilization and war economy to “save the lives of a few Japs” (to use the relatively widely held stance of Americans at the time) was never going to happen. To say nothing of the toll on human lives regular strategic bombing and famine conditions would inflict…

boywar3,

I’d like to see the amount of discourse surrounding strategic bombing compared to the atomic bombings for average people. There aren’t any movies today talking about how horrific the normal bombing campaigns were, whereas this entire thread is dedicated to a recently released film about the Manhattan project…

As for an isolated place, well, they thought about that:

It was evident that everyone would suspect trickery. If a bomb were exploded in Japan with previous notice, the Japanese air power was still adequate to give serious interference. An atomic bomb was an intricate device, still in the developmental stage. Its operation would be far from routine. If during the final adjustments of the bomb the Japanese defenders should attack, a faulty move might easily result in some kind of failure. Such an end to an advertised demonstration of power would be much worse than if the attempt had not been made. It was now evident that when the time came for the bombs to be used we should have only one of them available, followed afterwards by others at all-too-long intervals. We could not afford the chance that one of them might be a dud. If the test were made on some neutral territory, it was hard to believe that Japan’s determined and fanatical military men would be impressed. If such an open test were made first and failed to bring surrender, the chance would be gone to give the shock of surprise that proved so effective. On the contrary, it would make the Japanese ready to interfere with an atomic attack if they could. Though the possibility of a demonstration that would not destroy human lives was attractive, no one could suggest a way in which it could be made so convincing that it would be likely to stop the war.

The key takeaway here is that they were unconvinced the Japanese military would react to anything else.

If the Allies wanted to kill more civilians with bombings, why did they drop millions of leaflets into cities urging people to evacuate? And no, they did not do so in any special sense for the atomic bombings out of fears the bomb wouldn’t work.

Again, it is quite easy to simply handwave this with “they could’ve done X” without being in the shoes of the people who made the choices. The project barely worked and cost billions of dollars, the enemy was assumed to be utterly fanatical in their devotion to continue the war, and there was no guarantee the bomb would have worked at all.

As for your claims of made-up BS…my statements are true to the best of my knowledge around allied war planning and bombing doctrine. There were plenty of ways to maximize civilian deaths using area bombing, and the Allies generally refused to do them, instead focusing on targets of military value.

Idk personally. I’m not that educated in this topic.

Ah, so then you are stating you lack sufficient data to make the right decision? Congratulations! You are experiencing, in part, what it was like to be living at that time! Nobody was educated in atomic warfare, as it hadn’t happened yet and we’d had basically 1 test a few weeks before it began for real. Pair that with not knowing what the Japanese were thinking and only having data based on their actions and official communications (which pointed to essentially national suicide in defense of the Emperor), and now you get a glimpse of the calculus being made about the bombings. Don’t fall into the classic “20/20 hindsight” trap many people fall into: think about the problem as though you were there.

boywar3,

Anyone else like that the dude who posted this shit’s name is from a genre that openly shows the flaws in capitalism’s race to the bottom?

Is like being hit in the face and still not getting the message lol

boywar3,

I’m glad you took the time to explain my joke, as I dont think I would’ve lol

boywar3,

One day you’ll get it lol

boywar3,

Yeah, I hate that I have to compromise on things, but when it comes down to it, I’d rather have more rights and have to watch Palestinians die than have fewer rights and have to watch Palestinians die.

Its a fucked situation anyway you slice it, but there it is.

In Poland firefighters were called to a house fire. There were no people inside the house but there was a terrified bunny that the firefighters rescued from the flames. (wgoleniowie.pl)

According to the article the top floor of the house and the roof had burned down completely. The firefighters had to bust in the door and use oxygen masks to get inside. The bunny was found inside an enclosure in one of the rooms. It was panicked and difficult to catch but they succeeded in rescuing the cute little furball. The...

boywar3,

We should allow people who pull similar shit to die the same way as Crassus lol

boywar3,

I think a lot of people don’t understand just how angry the younger people are with how the system is “working” today. It’s almost hilarious to me how conservatives scream angrily about how “young people are communists and hate capitalism” without trying to understand why. When a person’s prospects of outearning their parents (or hell, earning as much as them) are lowering every year, is it any surprise people are fed up with being exploited?

Interestingly, I suspect that we are seeing an uptick in tankie-like behavior because of that anger being directed at a single entity: the United States. It’s a lack of understanding nuance paired with anger that is driving the sort of “anyone against America is good because America bad.”

(To be clear, the US has and continues to do fucked up shit, but it has also done positive things as well, which is why nuance is important here)

boywar3,

Is this another instance of Shinzo Abe begging his citizens to have kids from beyond the grave?

Freedom of Sex - The moral case for letting trans kids change their bodies. (nymag.com)

… [Hanging] trans rights on the thin peg of gender identity, a concept clumsily adapted from psychiatry and strongly influenced by both gender studies and the born-this-way tactics of the campaign for marriage equality [was a mistake]. [It] has won us modest gains at the level of social acceptance. But we have largely failed...

boywar3,

Puberty blockers exist to give the option to change more time before puberty does significant alterations to a person.

Essentially, it buys time for younger trans people to be certain of their choices and minimize the (already remote) possibility of de-transitioning being needed.

There is also no evidence of any significant negative side-effects from the treatment.

boywar3,

Y’know, the whole Japan occupation post-war was kinda necessary given the state Japan was in and how deep their evil leadership went lol

Ground cinnamon sold at discount stores is tainted with lead, FDA warns (apnews.com)

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said cinnamon sold by stores including the Dollar Tree and Family Dollar contains lead at levels that could be unsafe for people, particularly children, with prolonged exposure to the spice. The agency urged suppliers to recall the products voluntarily....

boywar3,

Anyone else love how this guy so confidently just goes, “your scientifically backed up claims are wrong because I saw something that contradicted it once?”

Same energy as “global warming isn’t real because I saw snow in January”

boywar3,

MAGA: “Migrants are burning down cities all the time (somehow), and injecting bleach stops coronavirus!”

(So-called) BlueMAGA: “I dislike some of Biden’s policies and his response to Gaza, but I want someone responsible in charge.”

anticolonialist: “I literally cannot tell the difference!”

boywar3,

It’s pretty sad that your comments were removed, as discussing the logical conclusion of these situations is important.

We can’t simply plug our ears and ignore the very real dangers of the justice system failing to punish people (whether justified or not). When people determine they have no other recourse, political violence is the logical conclusion of such a situation.

It’s a terrible thing that there is a real chance for political violence to become mainstream, and simply ignoring that possibility is more dangerous than addressing it openly.

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