vintprox, (edited )
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Community Forums were made read-only by a new owner.

At May this year, the previous owner of GCF @TwistedTwigleg has burnt out and tranferred the ownership of forum to @cybereality. Andres was granted all the permissions needed due to his enthusiasm. In the middle of this week, zie suddenly created an exhaustive post accusing to be a scam.

Now, I'm not going to peel the layers of threads and subthreads of this incident for you, so better read for yourself.

https://programming.dev/post/700247

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vintprox, (edited )
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The sheer fact that Community Forums got closed off because of some disagreements and confusion of the successor around / and promises of the massive project... I'd argue it is not as disappointing as the feeling of being betrayed for not giving away red flags before this whole debuckle even started to pan out.

If you make a in a sense of place where different points of view are brought up, you should know better than to make a controversial post, lock it and pin it. Same difference with legit issues that were locked without any sensible resolution in issue tracker for yet another project.

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vintprox,
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Community Forums is but another with the puppetteer. I would not ask enthusiasts to host similar indefinitely and users to depend on them, since each one of them remains a .

I think we should gather more around the distributed communities on , and such. This way, nobody feels sick of being in the single room with hot-headed decision makers.

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sirdorius,

@vintprox What happens when the same thing happens to the Lemmy/Mastodon instance owner and it gets shut down? Are the posts in the instance still available?

vintprox,
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@sirdorius

No client-server connection is ever immune to... the absense of server. But since the data was most likely replicated by federated instances, whose users follow you or interact with certain content, you can check out those instances and still see the posts.

Data is requested to be erased from external instances only by the server that is being called self-destruct by its admin - which is less likely than being abandoned altogether.

In either case, there is no guarantee that data/attachments are erased everywhere nor if it's saved elsewhere. But posts can certainly be secured by letting users from different instances interact with them.

sirdorius,

@vintprox True. Thanks for the explanation!

That does introduce the complementary problem of no right to be forgotten. While you could argue that this was never a guarantee on the Internet, there will definitely be some issues that will be exacerbated by this design, ie the leaking of personal data.

I am willing to give the Fediverse a shot, but I am skeptical it is the silver bullet it is advertised to be.

vintprox,
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@sirdorius

You definitely wouldn't want to publicize anything sensitive on social media (including Fediverse). For example, if you have an urge to run a train of thought and immediately start the discourse, you can do this in chat - because vertical walls of text that will accumulate with time can help it to be forgotten. Although, as always, it's up to person, who demands to be forgotten, to let system know what to delete.

I think Matrix is doing good on that front, albeit still without a userfriendly way of redacting everything. But no doubt that there is some community-made script to mass-remove your past events, and most servers would have liberating rate limits for you to erase info about yourself.

https://matrix.org/blog/2018/05/08/gdpr-compliance-in-matrix/

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