Maybe a different approach would be a way to specify which languages you are able to read. There are plenty of users who are multilingual might want to see posts in several languages.
Sure, but shouldn't we also need to subscribe to communities/mags from these instances? I know i see lots from .de domains in my feed, but I am not subscribed to any of the communities/mags on the instances those posts originate from.
I just meant that "Hide other languages" is different than "Show me these languages" - the former is potentially read as "only show me 'my current language'"
I didn't mean to imply they were shitting on German, more that the German users probably also read English and would want to see both.
While that wouldn't exactly be a nice way to word it, monolingual designers designing for monolingual use cases is a huge issue that crops up a lot.
For example, you used to be able to right click a text input field in Chrome and directly select the language for the spell checker. Then they changed it and said, multilingual people should just select all the languages they speak, and the spell checker will just allow every word as correct that appears in at least one language.
That's a horrible solution, because you frequently have similar words in multiple languages spelled differently, so that the word in a different language just masks a typo. For example, compare grass (English) to Gras (German). If I am typing a German sentence and accidentally type it with two s, the spell checker will not flag it.
Anyone who frequently uses multiple languages would instantly know that that's bad design, but apparently the person who designed this doesn't speak multiple languages.
As far as I can remember, there was a shitstorm and they reverted the change. It's been a long time since I used Chrome.
I mean, there’s like thousands of languages out there and usually you’re only going to know a handful of them. From an experience standpoint I’d rather just check the ones I want to see rather than check all the others.
I think the problem is that on some/?all instances the default language is set to either undefined or English. I've noticed its undefined on lemmy that I have used, while on Kbin it's set to the language I set to read - English. So if people don't change the language they will be posting undefined text or in English inadvertently.
My account is set to show undefined and English posts only but I'm seeing a lot of German content.
That's not my experience, I don't have kbin in english, but the comments are still automatically set to english. I can't set them to undefined either (*cry in emoji).
It would be pretty cool if it would detect it automatically by default.
We're working with alfa and beta software.
Ideally the mods could set the default language on the magazine/community, there are a few english communities on feddit.de
And with prefs you could select to hide certain languages.
I did, and I discovered it was doing something weird with comments, so I disabled it. I should pop it on again and remind myself what that weird thing was.
Edit: Ah yes, it makes all comments invisible.
Edit edit: Oh, it looks like it only does that when it's also enabled with a collapsible comments userscript I also had running. Since that feature is available in yet a third userscript, I disabled that one, and it's all good.
Edit edit edit: Nope, it still hides all comments. Undo.
Just as a quick check: are you sure you are in your "subscribed" view?
KBIN by default uses an "all" view, which you can change at the top right next to your username (the "table" menu).
You can go to that magazine, and over on the right side you can click the block button. It should be right next to Subscribe. I've done this for a lot of communities that are in languages I cannot read.
Yes, but it's annoying playing whack-a-mole especially adding in the sports team magazines. And if they do add auto-translate in the future it's gonna be annoying to un-block all of them, though images likely will still be an issue.
Also note that blocked magazines can still show up in the sidebar.
This plus duplicated content/communities/discussion (where there actually isn't a different perspective) really makes me think that the idea of how these sites are structured is flawed.
I don't disagree. However I spend most of my time in kbin.social/sub where I've already curated most of the groups I care to look at and engage with. I really only venture into /all when I'm kinda bored. Thus, so far, it hasn't really been too terribly problematic to do that.
It would be nice to declare a language whitelist and have a filter for it, but I suspect kbin has some more important things on the To Do list for the moment, and maybe devs will get around to it when they've got a breather. We're likely going to have another influx on the 1st after the alien site kicks app devs in the nuts.
It makes sense to fix it, I suppose. It wouldn't really make sense to just downvote it every time it comes up, that wouldn't be fair.
It's kind of funny to me, I was part of the French meme-magazine on the old "orange reading site" and german meirl would get referenced occasionally. Now I get to see that magazine (ich_iel) most of the time I log in, even if I don't fully understand it, and the ones I understand are pretty good.
PS: this really throws a spotlight on how anglocentric /r/all was
Big ask but I'd love a translate button. Even shitty translations are OK. Sometimes content in other languages is of interest and I struggle through as best I can.
This would work for me too, but you'd still be losing out on the memes, which are the main thing I'd enjoy having.
Bright side, conversations where the speaker very suddenly switches away from English somewhere in the middle wouldn't be so uniquely aggravating. You can't just leave me here with a third of a sentence! I was invested!
I’d much rather pose a challenge…can developers in our community find a way to incorporate a translation tool to Kbin or Lemmy.
I’m interested in knowing what those German memes are all about!
Say what you will about Meta, but one of the few things I always appreciated about Facebook was the translate button on the comments. I could keep up with my Danish, Belgian or Brazilian friends and know what was going on with their life.
I’m not saying: Use a Meta API to translate, though. It’d defeat the purpose of the Fediverse.
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