Efwis,

I’m on X atm. Wayland works, but it stops some configs from working properly. For example I have endeavour set up to not only notify me of updates, but I can click on the icon in the tray and it will start the update on X, where on Wayland the tray icon doesn’t show so I have to manually update my system. I like the simplistic click and go the tray icon offers me. This is just one feature I run into problems with. I don’t run NVIDIA so I don’t have the compatibility issue with that.

LiveLM, (edited )

Wayland!
It has advanced a lot lately, I’ve been daily driving it for months now with no issues, compared to a couple of Plasma versions ago where it would break itself in 5 minutes lol.
Only thing I’m missing is a good remote access solution. I’m currently making do with Sunshine + Moonlight but it has the very annoying bug of not showing the mouse cursor.

Edit: lol just realized this post is 1 month old. Really looking forward to Lemmy fixing this bug.

deadbeef79000,

X11 because what we really needed was X12 but instead we threw the baby out with the bath water.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

X because when I try selecting Wayland from sddm the screen goes black and then takes me back to sddm. I’m on manjaro and I’ve done no configuration and I’ve not attempted to install Wayland I just assume because it’s an option in my drop down that it’s been installed.

dylanchapell,

@Fizz @bacteriostat @kde On my arch install, I had to install plasma-wayland-session to make that option work.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I had plasma-wayland-session already installed. It turns out I needed to add nvidia-drm to the kernal params and forced GBM backend. After that it seems to be working. I am a wayland man now!

SSUPII,

X, because honestly my screen works and don't currently need to replace the server behind it.

bacteriostat,

I understand and X works fine for a lot od people but do remember the number of developers maintaining it have been dropping year on year. No harm in trying IMO. If you are on Plasma or Gnome, you get a simple switcher on the login screen.

SSUPII,

Yeah, I know X is really showing its age.

I have to add that the switcher is not on Debian 12 by default, where Wayland support for Plasma is optional in plasma-workspace-wayland. Also, it is broken on Nvidia due to missing packages/libraries and Nvidia's proprietary driver still in general not supporting Wayland properly.

bacteriostat,

It is reasonable to continue using X due to Nvidia issues.

Metigoth,

It is bottom left on my sddm login Wayland or X11 session kde. Debian 12 bookworm AMD

SSUPII,

Because you installed it, or because 12 now gives both via tasksel (or Debian setup). My system is from Debian 10

kotatsuyaki,

Wayland on most machines, X11 on my desktop with Nvidia GPU. On all my non-Nvidia machines, Wayland works great. The screens tear less, and the gestures are more responsive.

I try out Plasma Wayland with Nvidia GPU from time to time, but last time I tried (a few months ago), there were still some showstoppers. For example:

  1. KRunner hangs and can't be opened again.
  2. Panel freezes visually.
  3. Pipewire screen sharing results in a black canvas.
Limitless_screaming,
Limitless_screaming avatar

The screens tear less

The screen tears?

lnnz,

I recently switched to Wayland to see if it would work and it did. It's been a few weeks and don't forget myself going back to X11. My only complaint is that I couldn't for the life of me find how to change the cursor speed. I see scroll speeds but no trackpad speed. So I just live with a slightly slower cursor. I'm sure I could figure it out outside of KDE if I really looked, but it's just usable enough to where I haven't bothered yet.

Slartibartfast,
Slartibartfast avatar

I'm on Wayland on my laptop, which is AMD (I specifically went all AMD because NVidia is just kind of a pain in the ass on Linux I've found) and that works perfectly, it's been my daily driver for probably about a year and I tend to forget I'm even running it unless it comes up, such as talking about it now.

My desktop is Nvidia and that thing will crash if you even say the word Wayland within about 10 feet of it so that one's still rocking X11 for now.

const_void,

Still on X11 because I need fractional scaling which doesn't work well on Wayland.

KSPAtlas,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

Despite having an nvidia card, i use wayland and deal with the glitches cause once you've gotten a taste you can't go back

indite,

Wayland, I've tried X but it just seems so much slower

TheCakeWasNoLie,

HiDPI sucks less on X than on Wayland

indite,

neat, useful to know if I ever get a HiDPI monitor

someAlex,

Tried Wayland two times (once with Kubuntu 20.04 and once with Kubuntu 22.04), both times I faced some small, but annoying things like missing shortcut, missing theme, partially wrong windows' appearance etc.

I don't have anything against Wayland, but I'm going to switch only when (and IF) the switch will be 100% transparent.

bacteriostat,

Fair enough.

Jeef,
@Jeef@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wayland. Only thing currently bothering me about it is the login screen uses x and my cursor size on x isn't scaling right so only on login I have a huge cursor size. Barely enough of an issue for me to go in and correct it

Fleppensteijn,
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

X for me.

I tried Wayland a few times over the years but it was always too buggy and many applications just didn't work.

A couple of updates later, Wayland completely stopped working, all I get is a black screen and a cursor.

bacteriostat,

When was the last time you tried? And which GPU?

Fleppensteijn, (edited )
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

I tried it again just now. I can still start a console but plasma just won't start. All I get is

The Wayland connection broke. Did the Wayland compositor die?

plasma-plasmashell.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.

qt.qpa.wayland: Wayland does not support QWindow::requestActivate()

I'm on Nvidia of course 😕

bacteriostat,

I guess things are still rough on Nvidia.

MindPaper,

The new tiling in Plasma (wayland) is nice, but it's not quite what I'm looking for, so I use X, which lets me replace KWin with XMonad and get the auto-tiling that I like.

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