JRepin, (edited )
@JRepin@lemmy.ml avatar

I'm on Wayland on all computers. The main pain point I have with Wayland at this moment is the lack of session save/restore (remembering which windows were open and saving their state on logout, and restoring all on login). All of the computers are powered by AMD graphics cards and KDE Plasma desktop.

blackberries33,
@blackberries33@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, I did not know wayland was lacking this feature until recently when I switched to wayland on my work computer. So long as I know stuff won't be restored, I can plan ahead now.

MyNameIsRichard,
@MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml avatar

I'm using X because on Wayland windows sometimes disappear from view. I can't even blame Nvidia because I'm all Intel.

bacteriostat, (edited )

That's an unusual issue, have you reported it on bugs.kde.org ?

MyNameIsRichard,
@MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml avatar

I thought I had already, but I definitely have now.

sporif, (edited )

Wayland on my ryzen laptop, Xorg on my Nvidia pc. There are just too many things missing with Nvidia, such as Gsync, gamma control, overclocking and fan control.

SSUPII,

X, because honestly my screen works and don't currently need to replace the server behind it.

bacteriostat,

I understand and X works fine for a lot od people but do remember the number of developers maintaining it have been dropping year on year. No harm in trying IMO. If you are on Plasma or Gnome, you get a simple switcher on the login screen.

SSUPII,

Yeah, I know X is really showing its age.

I have to add that the switcher is not on Debian 12 by default, where Wayland support for Plasma is optional in plasma-workspace-wayland. Also, it is broken on Nvidia due to missing packages/libraries and Nvidia's proprietary driver still in general not supporting Wayland properly.

bacteriostat,

It is reasonable to continue using X due to Nvidia issues.

Metigoth,

It is bottom left on my sddm login Wayland or X11 session kde. Debian 12 bookworm AMD

SSUPII,

Because you installed it, or because 12 now gives both via tasksel (or Debian setup). My system is from Debian 10

thenextfrontier,

I use wayland on my laptop running GNOME, and I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. I recognize that people's hardware is a big deciding factor on if it works this well or not though...

bacteriostat,

Yup. I am myself running Plasma Wayland on 2 laptops (both Ryzen APUs) for over an year now. Seems like Nvidia is the biggest limiting factor.

communist,
@communist@beehaw.org avatar

Wayland, nvidia is the only reason not to use it these days as far as i'm concerned.

Limitless_screaming,
Limitless_screaming avatar

Wayland, I like the smooth scrolling, the touchpad gestures, and the not being unmaintained / unmaintainable aspect.

Fleppensteijn,
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

X for me.

I tried Wayland a few times over the years but it was always too buggy and many applications just didn't work.

A couple of updates later, Wayland completely stopped working, all I get is a black screen and a cursor.

bacteriostat,

When was the last time you tried? And which GPU?

Fleppensteijn, (edited )
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

I tried it again just now. I can still start a console but plasma just won't start. All I get is

The Wayland connection broke. Did the Wayland compositor die?

plasma-plasmashell.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.

qt.qpa.wayland: Wayland does not support QWindow::requestActivate()

I'm on Nvidia of course 😕

bacteriostat,

I guess things are still rough on Nvidia.

fabhian_arkantos,

If not on Wayland, what's stopping you?

NVIDIA :(

missingno,
missingno avatar

X still. I've tested and found an additional 16ms latency on Wayland, and it's really annoying trying to do OBS Window Capture as I have to re-grant the sandbox permissions for each window every time I use it.

mellamoessucasa,

Wayland, because I'm late enough to the party that I started with it and haven't really had any issues.

feyo,

Been on Wayland for a few years. It’s not always been sunshine and roses, but neither has X.

I still remember being really annoyed everytime I had to edit Xorg.conf files and finding my desktop to no longer boot or mouse to no longer work.

bit,
bit avatar

I keep trying Wayland and it works so well until it suddenly don’t.

Just two weeks ago I tried again and used it fulltime for a few days. In 90% of cases it’s better than X, but when something goes wrong 10% then it’s too much.

Essentially I had mad flickering in various games and random black screens for a few seconds every now and then in FFXIV.

mori,
mori avatar

I use Wayland and love it, but have two serious issues:

  1. Sunshine does not show a mouse cursor without a hack that kills performance.
  2. Have to disable asyc reprojection in order to use VR.
    Bonus less serious issue: I can't re-dock floating toolbars on X applications when using XWayland.
sigg,

For me personally on an AMD GPU, Wayland seems feature-complete. In terms of bugs though Wayland can be a pain. My primary monitor always seems to lock up either entirely or in parts. Like I can use the taskbar but a game becomes unresponsive, or vise versa. Literally as I typed this, my taskbar locked up and I can't select anything so I will have to reboot lol.

Another annoying thing about KDE under both X and Wayland (though it happens in Wayland far more) is when the taskbar and title bar icons default to the display server logo. I hate that. Probably on the app developers though.

GNOME under Wayland is a different story, I ran that for a year and outside of some external monitor funkiness everything just seemed bug free. Might switch back once GNOME gets VRR support, we'll see how Plasma 6 is.

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