The longer I work with #MacOS and #iOS, the more I'm confused on why people think #Apple is lauded as the panacea of #UX. These platforms are in many ways messier and clumsier than #Linux, but somehow never get shit for it.
@ainmosni I'm using again linux everyday at work and it's quite clumsy UX (like network and power management is very erratic). I find UX less consistent than Windows in general... macos UX is very clumsy too and basic things are often not provided out of the box (especially file explorer is absurd useless). Yet I see one huge good point for mac laptop: their trackpad is far superior to any other... for the rest, if you work in dev or AI, linux is far better than macos on all points...
@ainmosni OS X did a lot of things right in its earlier version, but as with any platform the enshittification by adapting to mobile UIs means that most UIs are now in the same sewer pipe.
The HCI Guide for OS X (and MacOS "Classic") was stellar.
@mhd Depends on your usecase, GNOME is super minimal, and has very uniform style guidelines on its apps. If you 100% stay in that ecosystem, it's the most consistent desktop I've used.
But if you'd rather have all the features and don't mind some inconsistency, KDE Plasma is simply amazing.
@ainmosni I still can't forgive GNOME the CSD disaster, but I've got KDE on my TODO list, last time I used it for a longer time the general usability hadn't increased that much since version 3 (cf. "Trinity Desktop"), although the invidiual applications certainly did. And definitely better than when it was still "Kool" ;)
@ainmosni No, neither Christopher Street Day nor the Cat Scratch Diseas ;)
Client-Side Decorations. My personal candidate for worst UI feature of the last few years, beyond even flat design. And GNOME does it worse than others, not just overriding expectations for a few pixels of space saved, but also putting dialog buttons at the top.
"What's worse, Ok/Cancel, or Cancel/Ok?"
GNOME: "Hold my beer"
@ainmosni for the realzies, was messing around with a mac my friend was selling and immediately understood everyone hating on their window management system.
@ainmosni I have used Linux for 20 years but nothing on the market beats the smoothness and fluidity of MacOS on a MacBook. That disappears, imo, using desktop MacOS.
@Corb_The_Lesser Been using MacOS fulltime for a few weeks now, and I'm amazed how clunky so many basic actions are. Finder... window management... XCode...
I mean, I had this same experience when I used Macs for work years ago, but surprised that it got worse since...
@ainmosni I don't use Macs or Linux for work so can't speak to that. I've had lots of laptops running Windows, Linux, and MacOS. My current Macbook's touchpad -- the focal point of interacting with a laptop -- is superior to anything I've used previously. (Gnome on Wayland is a close second. Windows is a distant third. Just sluggish touchpad handling.)
Take that touchpad away and MacOS is just another OS.
@Corb_The_Lesser Ah there's a big difference, I don't like touchpads in general, I am very keyboard driven, and find selection etc much more precise with a mouse.
My main problems are all with the OS and how very basic things are just very tedious in MacOS.
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