hoday_88, Spanish
@hoday_88@mastodon.social avatar

If @mastodon becomes thread-like, I'll leave social network forever. I'm done with meta wanting to control everything, chiefly the freedom of speech in a network used to communicate. I mean, really? The upsidedown World.

paraphrand,

What’s threadlike mean?

golden_zealot, (edited )
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Here’s a question, forgive my ignorance. Is there a way to determine ownership of an instance beyond the name of the user account that owns it?

What if meta used their massive amounts of data storage to flood the fediverse with meta-owned instances, making it difficult or impossible to determine what they control and what they do not?

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

This is a concern I have also posed.

golden_zealot,
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Furthermore, greed becomes a factor when you consider someone could sell their instance to a corporation with no one being any the wiser.

davel, (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

This will be an ongoing struggle until capitalism is ended. Westerners think China has a firewall to keep The Truth out, but mostly it’s to keep foreign capitalists out.

davel, (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

There are better arguments for not federating with Meta’s Threads, some of which can be found in !fediverse. Firstly, Threads isn’t going to be able to restrict speech on other instances, at least not in any direct fashion. And secondly and more importantly, an argument for “freedom of speech” without qualifications is either naive or disingenuous: Paradox of tolerance

sour,
sour avatar

@davel

is culture issue

pineapplelover,
davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Right, that and knowing the long history of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (EEE) ought to be sufficient.

hoday_88,
@hoday_88@mastodon.social avatar

@davel what do you mean about "an argument without qualification"? And what has this to do with what meta is banning?

glimse,

How would meta control your speech on a platform they don’t run?

Oh no, your posts might not be visible to people using Threads!

As a side note, I don’t think Mastodon posts should show up on lemmy at all.

SineNomineAnonymous,

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  • CrypticCoffee,

    You got any data for that?

    SineNomineAnonymous,

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  • CrypticCoffee,

    Oh, it is good news. I wanted a source, so I can embrace in the excitement. I want Meta to fail, and anything that contributes towards it is great in my book. I just want to know it’s actually happening and see it in the data!

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    @dameoutlaw@lemmy.ml avatar
    SineNomineAnonymous,

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  • dameoutlaw,
    @dameoutlaw@lemmy.ml avatar

    I’ll wait for you to read it again. You said there’s less users than that uses Mastodon and that’s not even true. You clearly skimmed passed that part, then commented in odd fashion. When it’s too that failed as you provided false information. Even if you don’t use the article I provided find a recent source that’s not from the summer. Even then at its lowest the numbers was still higher than Mastodon which has 1.6 m MAU

    Dio,
    @Dio@lemy.lol avatar

    Okay.

    abobla,

    just go to an instance that doesn’t federate with threads.net

    You can also block the threads.net instance on the most recent lemmy version (0.19.0)

    hoday_88,
    @hoday_88@mastodon.social avatar

    @abobla thank you for the update. Where can I block it? Can you help me with it?

    abobla, (edited )

    I don’t know how to do iton mastodon, but I know it’s possible on lemmy 0.19 (lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, lemm.ee and others have this version).

    I’ve never blocked an instance though.

    edit: grammar

    gregorum, (edited )

    You can’t block Threads users or comments with the Lemmy instance block function, which basically makes the lemmy instance block function practically useless.

    Wodge,
    @Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

    Then use the block user function?

    gregorum,

    For countless thousands or millions of individual accounts? Are you joking?

    Instance blocking, should block the entire instance, users and all. Not just its posts. 

    Wodge,
    @Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

    If your stance is to stop any interactions with people who use Meta products, then you probably need to stop using the internet.

    gregorum,

    How much is meta paying you to say that?

    abobla,

    Interesting, maybe this can be suggested as a future update for lemmy

    gregorum,

    It was suggested long ago. This useless bs is what we got instead.

    BlastboomStrice,
    @BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz avatar

    Question:

    Is it possible that this happens because your instance has already defederated from threads?

    My instance (mander.xyz) has defederated from them and I too can’t block threads. (Fun fact: mander has only defederated from 2 instances, threads.net and burggit.moe)

    gregorum,

    I think you misunderstand: lemmy’s new instance blocking feature that users can use only blocks posts from an instance, not users or their comments from that instance, which is what most people wanted the feature to do: block the toxic jerks from any particular instance along with their posts, comments, etc the same way defederation would. By only blocking their posts but allowing their comments, etc. to come through, the new feature is mostly useless, as it still requires users to be blocked individually.

    Since Threads is an instance that has, rather than thousands or tens of thousands of users like a typical lemmy instance, but tens of millions, this makes things even more daunting for users of instances which don’t defederate from Threads.

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