psycrow, Why use this over .7z? I'm legit curious.
roseh, Compatibility. Every Linux system comes with tar and gzip
glibg10b, Why use this over .xz? I'm legit curious.
TheAnonymouseJoker, XZ is a single file container, whereas 7Z is a full fledged complete compressor which can handle multiple files. I see no reason to prefer TAR+XZ.
Zardoz, It's likely a combination of tradition/habit and compatibility. Tar.gz is widely supported on *nix systems, and while 7z is highly efficient, its not as widely supported and may need additional libraries or software to work on some systems,/distros
WarMarshalEmu, I believe it's because tar.gz is more ubiquitous across unix distributions. I've honestly never seen a 7zip file on a unix system.
TauZero, Also, 7z does not store file permissions. Doesn't matter for a bunch of text/media files, but needed for distributing software.
Gentoo1337, (edited ) Reminds me of the "grandma .zip" meme
Pantherina, Yay this is now a URL. If your intention was not to post a URL to some random website not loading anything but javadscript, put a "" before the link I guess
Test "example/.com"
14specks, Fuck Google
Gentoo1337, Oops, yeah that was my intention lol. I'll put some invisible unicode character after the dot, maybe that would do it.
this, Naw thats grandma.mp3 or grandma.jpg because thats clearly lossy compression not lossless.
Semmelstulle, I do NOT understand how zip is still the default. I use .tgz wherever I can.
DeGandalf, Because of your comment, I did a quick google search and pretty much every source says that .tar.gz is also pretty ancient and not that good (from a compression point of view). For better compression, you can use the xz or 7zip formats. The former is more used on Linux, if that's what you're using.
Semmelstulle, That's true but I somehow really like the idea of tarballs. And Keka is compatible with it anyways
Pantherina, Lzo or lzma is best for compression. Also depends on the compression rate. KDE Ark is awesome
miss_taken, Nono, z-standard is where it's at
CreativeTensors, Compatibility with literally anything under the sun that can decompress a compressed file.
Semmelstulle, But isn't that's given with tgz too?
Except of course Windows iirc
duncesplayed, Windows, Android, iOS do not open them by default.
Semmelstulle, You can do it on iOS using Siri Shortcuts.
I don't get how they add all these formats to Shortcuts but only Zip into the file app...
CreativeTensors, (edited ) We might be able to deal with lack of windows support by running something else or using WSL (edit correcting me being an idiot: or a third party extractor program, duh).
But the fact remains it's a pretty huge install base and when sending files, especially in something like a work setting, it's best to cause the least amount of friction possible.
Mininux, Yep, but Windows is still the majority right now... And i'm sure there are a lot of people out there that don't have 7zip installed (why doesn't MS include their own implementation already ?)
Semmelstulle, And this is the problem imo. If you NEVER change a thing you will never improve
Mininux, Good luck teaching that to people who only use a computer to browse Facebook.
Not saying it's impossible, but it takes time
Semmelstulle, Do these even need zips?
Mininux, i was exagerating but you get the idea
let me rephrase, "people who only install two or three softwares on their computer without wanting to learn "complicated" stuff such as archive format.
and browse facebook too."
Semmelstulle, Yeah sometimes I just don't realize that a thing is an exaggeration haha
Pantherina, They do but its useless. Winrar can handle .tar.* too
SuperRecording, tar just wraps, doesn't compress. so more accurate would be the pillows in a looser bag that doesn't squish them even a little :)
Gleaming0167, Cuts them into nice stripes so they fit onto a tape spindle though.
trex, Spotted the Linux user
Lolors17, You got me!
entropicshart, Best explanation of tar/tar.gz that I have seen
WheeGeetheCat, I've learned something today
0x4E4F,
TimeSquirrel, Looks more like a one-way hash to me.
0x4E4F, Yeah, well, couldn't find an image of pillows being sqashed to a singularity.
Luckily, it's open to interpretation, lol.
_ak, This is a one-way hash.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/486a0b14-c6e6-420d-8dba-90b64a603b8e.jpeg.
tomcatt360, Mike: It's a cube of garbage. 🙄
Sully: I can still here her tiny little voice. 😦
Mike: Oh.
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