ZILtoid1991,
ZILtoid1991 avatar

Later on: the employee who does extra work will make the employee who does the bare minimum getting fired, but he doesn't get a wage increase. He will however complain about "lazy" people like immigrants, the disabled, etc. instead.

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Hard work is rewarded with additional responsibilities and tasks for no additional benefit. What is the point?

RanchOnPancakes,
@RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world avatar

I get bigger raises.

lemming741,

Using optimistic numbers from my workplace–

Is an extra 3% a year worth the 20% more work you’re doing?

XTornado,

The key is to look like you are doing 20% more work, but not actually do 20% more work. Of course that only works in certain cases.

RanchOnPancakes,
@RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world avatar

Considering I’ve reached the point where for the first time in my life at the end a 2 week cycle SOMETHING is left over even if just a little bit? Yes.

Vespair,

A lot of us “do the bare minimum” do the bare minimum because of all of the time in the past we spent going the extra mile only to be rewarded with ever greater expectations for identical compensation and opportunity.

They made us this way.

Track_Shovel,

No sympathy for them. No mercy!

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

Or in my case, get singled out by a manager from another department for no reason, who then gaslights the other managers into thinking I don’t do shit when I’m the only person in my section that even does anything at all. Go through the whole “try to make them quit” playbook but never do anything wrong so they can’t fire me. I would have outlasted all those fuckers if circumstance hadn’t forced me to move out of state.

Pretty sure they just wanted to eliminate my full-time position to save money.

Track_Shovel,

Been there

Mr_Dr_Oink,

Isn’t this socialism? 😜

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(Joking! before anyone hurts me)

Agent641,

My rule at work has always been based around the bears and hikers analogy. You dont have to be the best at what you do. Just dont be the worst.

Also some jobs afford opportunities for non-conventional self-education. If you can learn useful personal or professional skills while at working, do it, and under the guise of work.

chiliedogg,

Some people are passionate about always doing the best they can, and they get a great deal of satisfaction from it. I love being excellent at what I do.

I don’t have a wife or kids. My jobs are a huge part of my identity. Heck - my night job teaching is something I do because I want to do it, not for the little bit of extra money.

But I also know that I’m weird. Most people just want to do their job and go home to their families, and that’s great. They’re doing the job, so they should be compensated every bit as much as the people like me who are devoted to their work.

MrSilkworm,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

I inderstand fully. I used ti go through the same. At the same time I noticed a big difference when i got married. And a huge one when i had kids. Having a child and being responsible for it is a life changing situation. I tell my self that i became an adult not when i turned 18 but when i became a parent. When this happened to me, my perspective about work stoped revolving about being the best, and turbed to be just and help others be better. That made me soon to realize that those 2 cannot get always together.

Tldr: work 2 live > live 2 work

Track_Shovel,

Nah, I get it. I’m much the same way - I don’t do things half assed - just not made that way.

That said, I’m also not going to eat the corporate brainwashing gruel. The higher up you go the more you see people just flat accept stupid corporate decisions as ‘enlightened’ and they heavily adopt the corporate lexicon. Who needs a critical eye when you fit in?

Fuck that noise.

While I realize there are rules, structures, and culture in place. They shouldn’t hinder people. IDGAF about how someone does something as long as the product is technically sound, reads like Tolstoy, and was efficiently created.

CertifiedBlackGuy,

I work a shit ton of OT, but I get paid 1.5x or 2x based on circumstances for that extra time

I deliver the same quality of work on ST and OT—my best, but I would never work unpaid OT (e.g. some of my salaried engineers have been living at the job during our system upgrades) or do things well beyond the scope of my job.

Fuck that

Filthmontane,

Profit sharing fixes all of this because it provides incentives for everyone to go the extra mile so they can make more money.

Track_Shovel,

Yeah, but those profits could go to the shareholders!

unphazed,

“But you could get bonuses each pay period up to $100”… which after taxes comes to about $60, after union dues $58. Extra stress and work that makes you more than $100k more a year is not worth $720/yr to me thank you. Give me percentage and we’ll talk.

Turd_Ferg,
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

One of my 1st employers had “extra mile” coupons. Originally worth 7.50 in store credit, then 5, then they disappeared. This was a company that was charging 6 dollars for asparagus water.

Track_Shovel,

Asparagus water?

Turd_Ferg,
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

yea just throw some leftover asparagus in some water and see if yuppies buy it for 6 bucks (16oz).

Track_Shovel,

Asparagus is expensive - I got a 6 pack of NoName hotdogs that’s been in my fridge for over a month- brb…

Turd_Ferg,
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

Do you have any starfish and chocolate, per chance?

JasonDJ,

hwhat.

SanndyTheManndy,

If you see me going the extra mile, it’s probably the side-effects of me using the company’s resources to learn and do crazy experiments for my own gain.

TheObviousSolution,

It depends on the company and how they treat your job, but mostly as a worker you are there to fulfill a company’s requirement. Unless there’s a position or incentive to go that extra mile, don’t, most companies will never see it. Even if you want to do the extra work for yourself, I’d recommend to find a way to do it as a hobby if it’s unrewarded, separate from work.

What they will see is the absence in case they do need it, and then they will be required to fulfill it, although they may not want to focus on better and more empowered workers with higher expectations and may instead just focus on quantity over quality by hiring more people to fill it. Even worse, don’t be the guy who makes his (and other’s) jobs obsolete to scummy bosses.

Open your eyes, you aren’t in school, you aren’t getting rewarded for better grades at work unless they make it part of the business and your bosses stick to it and not just plugging in friends, buddies, and associates.

miridius,

Not true in my experience, both as employee and employer

reverendsteveii, (edited )

“Okay but the guy who goes the extra mile will get a promotion and do better in the long run.” —a guy who has always gone the extra mile, never gotten a promotion and is doing exactly the same as everyone else

Bakkoda, (edited )

I got a new job last year. It was a massive pay cut. 1/3 of what i was making. Skip to the end for a TL/DR.

I hit the ceiling hard at the old job and people i had never worked with or worked with only a handful of times had basically all said i was uncomfortable to work with because of my pace. I’m a walk and talk guy and if i was hired for a job (I’m a long term contact worker) I was usually hired because someone else had started a project and here i am. I was a fuckin one man wrecking crew. I work amazingly well with just about everyone because i find their strengths and weaknesses and immediately (and usually subtly) just start with the weakness, get the ball rolling and by the time there’s momentum they are back in their comfort zone. Aim them and let em go. I work with management, i work with operators and I’ve worked with janitorial staff to solve really shitty problems quickly and mostly painlessly. Apparently that means I’m doing jobs other people should be doing (eg currently and actively employed) which rubs them the wrong way. I’m contact, dgaf. That’s a wall of text bitches.

TL/DR i know it’s easy to say money isn’t everything but it can definitely be a trap that promotes some bad/unsustainable life choices. Recognize its unsustainable and have a plan.

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