LanternEverywhere,

This type of messaging is anti-helpful. Even though it's a joke, it makes things worse. It demotivates people from making the world better.

insomniac_lemon,
insomniac_lemon avatar

"Am I so out of touch?
🤔...
No, it's the internetmans who are demotivating."

ZeroCool,

You are in a meme community. Spare me the lecture.

LanternEverywhere,

So that means anything is ok here? What about pro-nazi memes? We all agree that there's a line somewhere, you and I just put that line in a different place. For me the line is anything that ACTUALLY might make the world a worse place.

ZeroCool,
Krauerking,

I get it. You are scared and upset and so you blame the people you think aren’t taking it seriously enough but forget that lack of impact we have. We only have so much free will as is available in the system unless we go outside of it and doing so currently gets you shot if you make too much noise.

You want to be upset be so at the people who are in the positions to do something but doesn’t. Rally those who don’t know to join your voice in convincing others. But don’t be mad at the people who are aware but haven’t done something you haven’t either.

LanternEverywhere,

I'm neither mad nor upset, I'm merely explaining my position and hoping to get other people to make similar decisions to help in whatever small ways they can

MindSkipperBro12,

Go.

Away.

Iamdanno,

There is nothing an individual person can change that will have an impact. There are maybe 10 large corporations that could, but won’t, fix this. They won’t fix it because it’s not a profitable thing to do. They’d rather be profitable right up until the day we all die, than fix the problem.

shneancy,

and what can a regular person do to fight this? not use plastic straws? turn off the light when they leave the room? wowie, that’s going to change so much when the mega corporations are dumping millions of litres of waste into the oceans, oils, plastics, industrial wastes, when politicans all over the world only care about winning instead of helping, and wining involves a lot of money, money they can only get from the mega corporations, so they won’t do shit to stunt their never ending chase of profits

even if all of us average joes decided to go full eco with minimal carbon footprint we will barely slow down the ecological downfall of our planet

rab,

We have had almost no snow in BC this year. Northern BC is in severe drought. There isn’t even enough water to fill the recently completed highly controversial site C dam.

Basically that means we are going to have the worst fire season we’ve ever seen, sorry america but the smoke alone will ruin your summer too

Even fucking Haida Gwaii is seeing some mild level of drought right now. This shit ain’t right

vivadanang,

You should look at the winter that recently ended in the southern hemisphere - record ice shelf losses during winter, record high temps in Rio and other cities. In winter.

And it’s just getting more and more brutal.

A_Random_Idiot,

didnt it hit 90 or a 100 or something in Rio, during winter?

vivadanang,

dailykos.com/…/-Heat-Index-in-Rio-de-Janeiro-hits… (this is during the ‘spring’ - our fall - and includes the heat index).

For their winter - on Aug 27, Rio witnessed its highest temperature of the winter, reaching 39.2°C

en.mercopress.com/…/hot-weather-hits-rio-de-janei…

for winter, these temps are just bonkers.

Anticorp,

sorry america but the smoke alone will ruin your summer too

Gosh dang it! In 2020 the fires turned our skies dark red, and there was ash falling from the sky. I don’t want to relive that. I couldn’t go outside for longer than about 2 minutes without getting a headache.

calypsopub,
intensely_human,

Great pic

calypsopub,

I can’t take credit. Stole this from a news article, but that’s exactly my view when I was driving through there that day.

Alexstarfire,

I think you drove through a dystopian movie set in NYC.

MindSkipperBro12,

What’s the difference between reality and fiction?

Anticorp,

Lack of flying cars and replicants.

Alexstarfire,

Enjoyability

Aceticon,

70 degrees in Dezember around here would kill most people, since it’s only 30 degrees below the boiling point of water.

douglasg14b,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, being intentionally obtuse.

Aceticon,

There are actually more layers there than just the obvious one…

Tangent5280,

I think you mispelled December as a reference to something but I dont know what

Aceticon,

Came out half in Portuguese, half in English.

Well spotted.

Emerald,

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Kenny Lì, @theyylovekj

Lil kids talking about “when I grow up”. Man it’s 70 in December you ain’t growing up lmao

regdog,

The last character in his name is japanese. His full name is thus “Kenny Li Hi”

coffeebiscuit,
jaschen,

shit you got me. Laughed out loud… audibly

GlendatheGayWitch,

That’s pretty normal for the southern US. I’ve had several Christmases that were 85 degrees even.

cheeseblintzes,

This shit is exactly why despite having hated growing up in the frozen tundra… I’m now staying. Its not worth giving up at this point in society.

Been a…something… guys. Best of luck to you in the climate wars.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

Mongostein,

You do realize that we won’t be free of the effects, right? Where do you think all the climate refugees are going to go?

cheeseblintzes,

Obviously… that’s why the first sentence I wrote was that I was staying up north….

intensely_human,

We’re coming to you. We’ll settle in arcologies at the poles, where it’s still cool. Let the machines run all the industry in the sun-baked deserts of middle earth

Incandemon,

Arcologies, sigh, thats the dream ain’t it. At best were wgtting Stargate slave society, at worst Metropolis. Neither is something I much want.

intensely_human,

Climate controlled rolling arcologies. Maybe we’ll get some kind of fusion laser that can freeze the water in front of the city as it rolls across the ice.

gentooer,

But what if I like my freezing weather at home?

tygerprints,

You're welcome to it. You can have my freezing weather also! If it falls below 80 degrees in my apartment, I put a sweater on!! :/ I'm serious.

gentooer,

For other people: 80°F is about 21°C

I work with a lot of expats who feel the same, but I still like that I can clothe myself against the low temperatures, but not for the hot temperatures.

tygerprints,

I think I could live in sub-Saharan Africa and be OK. I love hot weather, and dry hot weather especially. Yes I am weird. Never been a fan of being cool or cold. I don't even run my air conditioning in the summer (most days - there are some day that are too brutally hot even for me).

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

That’s ~21 degrees in non-freedom units from someone who has to do this conversion a lot.

Also, that’s pretty normal summer temperature if you are from the Southern hemisphere.

splicerslicer,

But this is clearly written from the perspective of someone who lives in a climate that used to be solidly below freezing all through the winter months in the northern hemisphere. Now snow seems like a distant memory from childhood.

SimplyTadpole,
@SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

21°C/70°F is a normal winter temperature where I’m from in the southern hemisphere 🥲

And right now it’s summer… let’s put it this way, lately it’s been over 40°C/104°F for so many weeks in a row that, when temperatures dipped to 33°C/91°F, it felt cold… and to think it’s only going to get worse going forward @_

YoorWeb,
joel_feila,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

One oz of water heated 1 degree F is 1 BTU. Boom just as easy

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

If we are being really pedantic, the freezing and boiling part of first paragraph is only true under sea level atmospheric pressure, so technically, you can’t really relate these quantities with the given information in the first paragraph either.

But I don’t think that’s the point this exerpt is trying to make.

UndercoverUlrikHD,

Unless stated otherwise, you always just assume 1atm of pressure.

themelm,

Yeah but if you’re boiling your pasta and you live a few thousand feet above sea level you’re gonna want to give it a bit more time since water boils colder up here.

el_abuelo, (edited )

Who the hell times how long their pasta takes to boil? You just go until it starts making noises.

Edit: woopsie…that’s not what they said. Colder - so it takes longer for the pasta to cook. My bad.

Alexstarfire,

You should re-read what they wrote because that’s not what they said.

el_abuelo,

Oh yeah…thanks for pointing that out. I’ve been fighting some nasty cold/flu/covid thing and clearly not reading straight haha.

regdog,

I like beeing pedantic. Please proceeed.

lurker2718,

A calorie is not a metric unit but the joule is, 1 calorie is approximately 4.2 joule. A gram of hydrogen does not exactly have 1 mole of particles. The historical definition for the mole was the count of atoms in 12 grams of the ¹²C carbon isotope, which is slightly different.

intensely_human,

The historical definition for a mole is a little underground mammal. Then you science geeks decided to just screw it all up because you couldn’t be bothered to make your own word. A molar’s a mole tooth, dangert!

Aceticon,

A pressure which, funnilly enough, is not in fact 1 bar (as one would expect) in the metric system but rather 1.013 bar.

Alexstarfire,

Now that’s a big middle finger.

tygerprints,

I'm in Utah and we get up to around 106 to 107 on some days in mid-Summer. But we also go down as slow as 0 degrees sometimes in winter. I would rather live in a state where temps are in the warmer register most days of the year.

Sorgan71,

70 in december is normal

Agent641,

Farenheit or celcius?

Sorgan71,

Farenheit

ericbomb,
  • in the northern hemisphere.

There you go.

doingthestuff,

In hell/Australia

numberfour002,

Old person, pointless, war-story time!

Where I live, fall and winter weather is like this and always has been my entire life. Daytime highs in the 70F (21C) range in fall and winter is definitely above average, but far from abnormal and that’s not even particularly extreme for this time of year. It’s a part of the northern hemisphere where it’s not even rare to have over night lows of 18F (-8C), and within a day or two it’ll be 72F (22C). We even joke about it “Ha ha ha. Don’t like the weather? Just wait a day. Ha ha ha.”

So, full disclosure: Climate change is real. If we don’t get our shit together, the (human) world is probably going to end (in disaster). But, being honest, if it’s 70F for a few days in November, December, January, February, or March it’s not exactly a sign that the end is near.

Anyway, on a site that shall not be named, there was a post that showed up on the front page that was from a city I used to live in, and which was geographically close to where I spent most of my childhood. It was an image gallery of a bunch of random plants in flower, during a week of slightly warmer than average weather in December or January, and it was lamenting something along the lines of “People keep saying these flowers are pretty but all I see is a harbinger of the apocalypse.” Highly upvoted and lots of affirmative comments.

Don’t get me wrong. Climate change is coming, climate change is here. It’s a catastrophe and it’s not a thing I deny exists.

But, the flowers in their photos were things that are cool season bloomers which start blooming in October/November in my area and basically are in bloom as long as conditions aren’t extremely cold or extremely hot. Most of them were invasive species (like Dandelions and various nettles that bloom year round as long as it’s not too hot or too cold). There was only one thing in their post that would have been a bit “holy shit”, but it was something that was completely unbelievable, likely misidentified, and they refused to provide further evidence on.

I called it out. Politely, but with conviction. And, let’s just say, it was not well received.

Blue_Morpho,

I think the xkcd referenced above is relevant to your post.

numberfour002,

Above my post? I don’t get it. My post is a top-level comment to the main submission. The post above mine is dependent on your client and your sorting selection / preferences, so it’ll be different depending on who views this and when.

Donjuanme,

You have to scroll up from this post, because that one is witty and reverent, and yours is down voted to the bottom of the page because it’s, well neither of the adjectives that were used prior.

NikkiDimes,

They were just adding their personal anecdote, while also highlighting unequivocally that they are not trying to deny climate change is a thing. It’s kinda messed up to put someone down like that just for sharing their thoughts…

numberfour002,

So you’re saying it’s in a different post altogether? I’m super confused. Do all posts and comments have to be reverent? I’m new to Lemmy, didn’t realize that was a precondition to posting.

scottywh,

This is the xkcd they were referring to.

xkcd.com/1321/

Seems like maybe they assumed that everyone uses the same comment sorting settings that they do.

KombatWombat,

Yeah, if winters are warmer now than people remember, it’s not global warming making a noticeable change.

For perspective, the average global temperature has risen 0.08°C (0.14°F) per decade since 1880. It has increased to (0.18°C / 0.32°F) since 1981, but you still aren’t going to feel that.

31337,

Depends on the area one is from. Where I grew up, temperatures were definitely consistently colder in the winter when I was a kid, and we received much more snow. Climate change is not just about the average changing, but the standard deviation as well (over both time and location). Regardless, for many people in the U.S., their USDA plant hardiness zone has changed due to consistently warmer winter weather.

urda,
@urda@lebowski.social avatar

It was good while it lasted.

Chobbes,

It was okay at best lol.

NikkiDimes,

We were over due.

Figureinplastic,

Was it?

GluWu,

Have fun in the water wars, kids!

Tbird83ii,

Great. Thanks. Now I can’t get the image of Kevin Costner pissing into a funnel out of my head.

BulbasaurBabu,

Me either :-)

Donjuanme,

Where’s the water going to go? It’s in the water cycle, if anything is going to rain a lot more and a lot more violently, and in areas it shouldn’t be raining.

If it’s contaminated we should be fine collecting and stiling rain water.

“Water is a rare and precious resource” when not talking about habitats, is a silly hyper capitalist argument meant to stoke fear and panic purchases.

TheKingBee,
@TheKingBee@lemmy.world avatar

It is in the water cycle true, but where it is in that cycle and where it ends up are both critical to our long term industrial agricultural water use.

Our water (in the US) comes from aquifers and like the proverbial milk shake, we’re drinking it all up and pouring it on alfalfa.

We need far far more water than collecting it from the rain would provide.

The coming water wars will be fought over the rights to the dwindling supplies…

Pretzilla,

Those Saudi Royal horses need to eat

chiliedogg,

When all the rain falls in the ocean, it’s effectively gone.

ericbomb,

A lot of water used in agriculture is actually from underground water sources that refill very slowly. Once we run out of those, many of the things we do can’t work anymore.

Bluescluestoothpaste,

The water goes into the ocean and then we cant drink it anymore, is that not obvious??

SpezBroughtMeHere,

Wait, why can’t we drink it anymore? Do you really think there’s no way to purify and remove things like salt from water? Please tell me I missed the satire.

DanVctr,

It’s not that we can’t remove the salt, it’s that electrolysis to remove salt from the water is very expensive from an energy perspective, which makes it expensive from an economic perspective too. A massive spike in the price of water would cause a widespread crisis impacting every corner of the economy.

Also, building out the infrastructure required to do electrolysis on that scale would take a lot of time and resources on its own.

SpezBroughtMeHere,

The word you are looking for is electrodialysis. And that’s not the only method. Reverse osmosis, distillation and nanofiltration are other options. Also, you mention having to build out infrastructure. You must not be aware of the 16,000 desalination plants around the world already.

DRx,
@DRx@lemmy.world avatar

Just a heads up, but most states have laws that guard against rain water capture. For example Colorado only allows 2 barrels or 110 gallons per year!

…colostate.edu/…/rainwater-collection-colorado-6-…

Avg US citizen uses 100 gallons/day

portal.ct.gov/-/media/…/27icwaterfactspdf.pdf

ThatWeirdGuy1001,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

Lmfao you really think the people with money won’t take control of natural resources?

That’s a pretty bad assumption considering they already have. Companies across the planet have already taken over most natural resources and will defend them with militaristic ways.

Water is already privatized in a lot of areas.

Anticorp,

About 10 years ago it didn’t rain in Central California for 2 straight years. Imagine that, but with the ground water gone, and places water is traditionally piped from saying “no more”. Millions of people would die.

Lesrid,

I can’t remember where I first read it but I’ve agreed with it ever since: “My retirement plan is dying in the potable water riots.”

intensely_human,

The only time water will be a problem is when someone’s using weapons to force others away from sources of it. In terms of desalinating water and delivering it to thirsty people, that’s something the market is perfectly capable of attaining. It’s always profitable to meet unmet basic needs so any water holes will be filled automatically. And that’s in the worst case scenario, where people are just buying trucked in water. In most places there will be actual plumbing serving people.

inclementimmigrant,

xkcd.com/1321/

This reminded me of this old xkcd.

Guntrigger,

It can’t be that cold, they’re naked except for the hats!

MonkderZweite,

Btw, we don’t even get much ice anymore here. 20 years ago, as a child, i could go scating on the frozen lake.

deeferg,

Now he can’t even remember how it was spelled.

KGB,

Wait hold on, he could be spelling it right and we’re the ones not getting the point.

MonkderZweite, (edited )

Follow up: xkcd.com/1322/

Kiosade, (edited )

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    In Calgary it was 60F the other week

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    Hi from Oklahoma :)

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    HOLY SHIT GLOBAL WARMING IS OUTTA HAND

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