Tyson712,

Dangerous... To their profits. Not so dangerous to the rest of us

Ni,
Ni avatar

I mean we must protect their profits at all costs.....

snipgan,
snipgan avatar

Unfortanetally for everybody the greedy oil mogul is basically right. At least for the near future.

Just so much of the world runs on oil/fossil fuels that it's almost comical how reliant on them we are.

Plastic. Fertilizer. Transportation. Energy. Medicine.

Even if we can try and do replace it with green alternatives, it is going to take a massive change to get to where we need to be. Let alone for it to be cost effective and productive enough not to destabilize the entire world. We all saw how some reacted to higher gas prices.

But climate change is wrecking the world as we speak so.....dam. Destabilization either way. We took too long and dragged our feet. Ironically cause of the actions of oil's dark money and propaganda.

Ugh. It makes my head hurt.

Ni,
Ni avatar

I think we're at a crisis point with the climate, we're hitting so many new records and milestones with a rapid pace.

As you say it's all destabilising. What I absolutely don't accept is that the customer should feel the brunt of that chnage. These companies have made record profit in the last few years, what a wonderful opportunity to reinvest and fix so many of the problems they have caused.

Madrigal,

Crazy thought: how about we get Greedy Oil Mogul and his ilk to fund the rapid transition, since they stalled progress in order to keep profiting from the current state for so long.

Ni,
Ni avatar

Thank you, yes please. Record profits over the past few years!

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

I've no doubt that this guy is being entirely self-serving and disingenuous, but the sad fact is that the UK still does still import half of its oil and gas.

  • Plus side of reducing oil production is that prices will go up and will drive the introduction of renewables as they become attractive and help save the world.

  • Downside is that we will all feel poorer during this transition

I'm in favour of cutting, but it's important to be clear about the implications.

Ni,
Ni avatar

We need big companies to really champion the move to green tech and renewables, and reinvest some of the profit. I don't think customers should shoulder the burden when you consider the last few years of recoding breaking profits

Ni,
Ni avatar

How much money do these people need?

Coskii,
@Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Need hasn’t been a factor for these types of people ever. It’s not about amount in terms of survival, it’s a high score system. Earn more than the one who came before you, gain over other companies, get noted in some top # company scoreboard.

The entire system is set up to award this aggressive, destructive behavior as success. The largest change in recent times is the numbers getting so massive that it takes the most destructive and cutthroat policies to even get close to out doing those who came before.

Ni,
Ni avatar

I intellectually understand the concept but personally cannot grasp it. The rise of the billionaire and the staggering record profits of some of these companies is just beyond the pale.

deeoh,
deeoh avatar

And that's exactly why you'd never be a billionaire, it requires you to embrace that concept. It's disgusting.

Ni,
Ni avatar

Hah, billionaires are an immoral concept in general. Should never have existed

Coskii,
@Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It’s a bit of a tangent, but it’s also a good showing of mindset understanding. When the game Phantasy Star Online 2 was released in the “West” a few years ago, I played it with many friends. One of those friends became obsessed with accumulating in game currency and made it a goal. Many months later and enough real money spent to be life changing and not in the good way, they accomplished the goal of 1 billion currency. I wasn’t directly involved in anything dealing with that situation, but I had heard they had made it.

Not knowing the gossip had been spread around, that player asked me what I would do if I ever had 1 billion myself. The answer I gave was that I’d stop playing the game. I do not save money in the game long term. It’s there to be used (usually on market cosmetics so my character can wear a fancy hat)… but if I ever got the point where I had saved 1 billion, that would mean that the smaller goals of things I wanted to grab would be extinguished, and while being fashionable isn’t the main draw of the game, it is a major point for me. They responded with a bit of an “oh” and left. I don’t know what ever happened to that player, but I do hope they recovered from their billionaire curse.

Unless it’s a lump sum lottery type situation, I don’t think most people would ever save enough even if they had the means to do so to have a billion dollars. The only way it happens is when the goal is focused purely on “make money” with no actual goal for that money.

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