vamp07,

Well, we’re gonna start teaching kids about the different types of power sources and their pros and cons, I sure hope we starts pushing more education about nuclear.

Sina,

Nuclear could be great, but it’s not that great right now. Though pushing education about it would be great for sure…

Watch this truly independent video on the subject: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kahih8RT1k&t=1216sUnfortunately nuclear is not going to save us, at least not without significant technological advances.

Wahots, (edited )
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

2010s Florida kids in about 80 years:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=UulEsFPhIjY&pp=ygUXY3Vy…

circularfish,
@circularfish@beehaw.org avatar

I somehow feel this will backfire spectacularly. Younger kids can be dumb like the rest of us, but there is one thing they are exceptionally smart about: spotting and mocking lame-ass adults.

There is already little tolerance among (a lot of) younger folk for climate denialism and general right wing jackassery. Adding a cut-rate Donald Duck screeching about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or how windmills are dangerous is just gonna’ cement the lameness for them. Now, if we could just do something about the grown-up idiots on Facebook, we’d be cooking.

Sina,

but there is one thing they are exceptionally smart about: spotting and mocking lame-ass adults.

I think fucked up education, if started at the first grade, or even kindergarten will do the job. The unfixable ‘problem’ DeSantis faces, is that teachers are typically not idiots and also it’s not easy to force them to teach a fake curriculum and you cannot just replace them with mind washed rednecks, probably not even in Florida.

circularfish,
@circularfish@beehaw.org avatar

Yep. I also think the ham-fisted way they are rolling this out is a projection of how they think the ‘libruls’ are brainwashing the kids.

Rather than educated people coming to educated conclusions on their own across vast segments of society, it is almost as if they think there is this secret committee of hooded Illuminati that generates Disney princess woke coloring books to turn little Billy-Bob away from Jesus, and the rest of the country just marches unthinkingly in lockstep with those orders. So of course, that is the playbook they want to follow.

some_guy,

He’s finally gone far enough out there that I now see this as more amusing than alarming. I’m sure I’ll get snapped back into anger soon enough, but I’m gonna enjoy this break from reality while it last. Clownfuck.

BananaNewsom,

I felt the same about Trump on 2015-2016. I was bewildered when so many believed in and supported him.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

The fact that I no longer underestimate stupidity leaves me more afraid after reading this news, not less.

mojo,

This dude isn’t just grifting, he’s actually just straight up evil.

Fhek,

1940s Germany wants their leader back.

ginerel,
ginerel avatar

What a silly argument could someone against climate change activists come up with

StringTheory,

Florida students who want to go to college in other states will need months of remedial education to catch up.

SoManyChoices,

Why would those colleges admit them? Any college worth attending already has more than enough qualified applicants.

GerPrimus,

This world is fucked! Sometimes i wake up and can’t believe I put children in this fucked up world. It’s like a fever dream.

BananaNewsom,

I plan to implore my kids not to have children.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

I doubt you have to. They surely see all too well now totally jacked everything is.

shiveyarbles,

I’m a parent and I sure af would not tolerate this fucking corporate propaganda being forced on my son.

vamp07,

Instead of discussing this at such an abstract level, Does anybody have a link to the actual material to form an informed option?

1993_toyota_camry,
@1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org avatar

Perhaps this one? I didn’t watch it

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI

Nerdulous,

Open link. See PragerU. Immediately close link

vamp07,

As a point of view, I don’t see anything objectionable in that video to expose kids to. It does seem to have an underlying sales pitch, but so does most of the videos I’ve seen on green energy. 

STUPIDVIPGUY,

Because they fail to provide reliable data or a better alternative

vamp07,

I prefer it that way. Let kids do their own research. They are just putting out a point of view in that video that is not crazy. I can only talk to that one video. I think this entire thread just highlights how talking about serious topics in forums like these is impossible. Most posts are not about the issue at hand. They mostly are about claiming the other side is evil.

lvl13charlatan,

That video is nothing but concern trolling and oil propaganda.

Trainguyrom,

Let kids do their own research.

That…that’s the whole point of school! Condensing centuries of human knowledge and research so that you have an educated populace ready to make decisions in the field based on good information they were taught in school (then later on in life making decisions based on the good information they learned in the field and from others)

They are just putting out a point of view in that video that is not crazy.

That’s how most indoctorination works, start by using logical fallacies and false premises that aren’t immediately obvious to non-experts on the topics

Most posts are not about the issue at hand. They mostly are about claiming the other side is evil.

Climate change isn’t something you can “both sides” you’re either intentionally threatening the survival of the human race (and most other life on earth) or youre a sane human being. You have to be morally bankrupt to even try to “both sides” climate actions on random Internet forums

STUPIDVIPGUY,

School has always let kids do proper research. Except now Florida is banning that and making kids watch oversimplified youtube videos full of logical fallacies instead of using proper lessons.

prole,

But I thought it was the left that’s indoctrinating children?

That’s what they need to convince their base in order to get them to support their indoctrination schemes. They’ve convinced so many people that simply teaching science and history is leftist indoctrination, and they need to combat it with their own propaganda.

Banzai51,
@Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

Remember this when Florida is flooding.

Wirrvogel,

Atlantis got flooded and look how famous it is today.

Pokadots,

We’ll soon see Ron dAtlantis

Hazzia,

Or on fire! Don’t forget about the fires!

raccoona_nongrata,
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  • floofloof,

    Remember there were people in Florida blaming wind turbines for a hurricane a few years back.

    So now it’s wind turbines causing hurricanes? I was told it was the existence of gay people. Which is it, conservatives?

    gornar,

    Yeah, figureitout there bud

    fmstrat,

    PragerU has produced anti-climate policy videos since shortly after it began in 2009. The Prager foundation has received millions of dollars from the billionaire brothers, Farris and Dan Wilks of Texas, who made their fortune in fracking.

    PragerU has received additional funding from foundations that oppose climate regulations such as the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.

    PragerU CEO Streit said her group has tapped into angry parents who want their politics reflected more in classrooms.

    Yup.

    Rentlar,

    I see conservatives have already shifted from “take politics out of the classroom” to “put our politics into the classroom”.

    Umbrias,

    That’s what it always was. Many people view. “Politics” as simply being anything they don’t like or disagree with.

    Stormyfemme,

    Or anything that’s not the status quo.

    floofloof,

    This is common, and it’s why a lot of conservatives describe themselves as “not political” while acting and voting conservative. From their perspective it’s just all these annoying people stirring things up and demanding change to a perfectly good situation who are the political ones.

    In general, when someone says “I’m not political,” I hear “I’m unreflectively conservative.”

    mobyduck648,
    @mobyduck648@beehaw.org avatar

    If someone is lobbying for climate change denial then they’re guilty of something morally akin to treason, but it’s not treason itself because instead of just betraying just their country they’re betraying their entire species.

    storksforlegs, (edited )
    @storksforlegs@beehaw.org avatar

    Reminds me of how Trump has been going after wind farms for a long time. He claims they’re noisy and they’re killing all the birds. (He began saying this when Scotland wanted to place Wind farms near his Scottish golf resort)

    Onihikage,
    @Onihikage@beehaw.org avatar

    It’s almost silly to look into bird deaths and realize just how low wind power is on the list, even with its rapid growth in recent years. It was recently estimated that with the expected growth of wind power, it will be killing about 2.2 million birds a year in the US… in 2050. Meanwhile, power lines kill anywhere from 12 to 48 million a year right now, fossil-fueled power plants kill as many as 14 million a year right now, communication towers kill over 5 million, cars 60-80 million, pesticides as much as 90 million, and cats well over a billion. Every year. The numbers aren’t that hard to find. Replacing all fossil-fueled power plants with wind turbines would be a net positive for bird populations, and the facts make that very clear.

    usnews.com/…/pecking-order-energys-toll-on-birds
    energymonitor.ai/…/weekly-data-how-many-birds-are…

    perdido,

    If they actually cared about birds they’d shut up about wind power and try to get rid of cats instead

    GreyEyedGhost,

    Like Bob Barker said, spay and neuter your pets.

    blindsight,

    And keep your cats indoors!! Outdoor cat pets should be illegal.

    (Maybe there’s a case for farm cats keeping vermin population in check? I don’t know enough to have an opinion on that.)

    Rozauhtuno,
    @Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    What an idiot, birds aren’t even real.

    ginerel,
    ginerel avatar

    Problem was that they are government agents/drones/whatever and this is costly for the government

    ampersandrew,
    ampersandrew avatar

    They did have an effect on birds though. I think it was almost entirely mitigated by painting one blade black, if memory serves, but it was based on some truth.

    middlemuddle,

    Please don’t give their statement any credibility without adding the important context. Based in some truth may be technically accurate, but when compared to all the other possible causes of bird death it’s basically inconsequential.

    www.fws.gov/library/collections/threats-birds

    If there’s a solution, such as painting one blade a different color, then great. We can leave it up to the turbine engineers and wildlife agencies to address it, it doesn’t need to be part of any news cycle. Giving their outlandish claim any air at all lends it far too much weight.

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