disguy_ovahea,

There’s no reason expect escalation at this time. Netanyahu got the IRGC commander and generals he wanted in the reckless embassy attack. Iran responded with last night’s attack on Israel and deemed the response conclusive.

some_guy,

Fuck Israel.

kolektiva.media/…/ba1cb5b0-521f-4aee-9334-bd5ab1d…

Donate to legal funds for those who get captured by police on April 15th or get your ass to a demonstration. This needs to stop.

sugarfree,
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  • some_guy,

    Are you fucking stupid? Shutting down commerce in the USA might actually do something to make a statement in the USA. Fuck Israel and fuck what they notice. We’re trying to disrupt business markets at home.

    spongebue,

    Let’s be realistic here, we’ll be lucky if any kind of demonstration, especially for an issue not happening at home, lasts an afternoon. Hell, we’ve had some pretty big stuff happen here that barely kinda sorta had any impact by demonstrations (after George Floyd’s murder comes to mind)

    sudo,

    Biden and his senior advisers are highly concerned an Israeli response to Iran’s attack on Israel would lead to a regional war with catastrophic consequences, U.S. officials said.

    But thats what Israel wants. Thats why they attacked Iran in the first place.

    sugarfree,
    @sugarfree@lemmy.world avatar

    Iran attacked first, not Israel. The Syrian strike was not the first attack.

    mihies,

    Only if your memory timespan is like a day.

    sudo,

    Please elaborate. Is Hamas now Iran? Are the WCK workers now Iran?

    Karyoplasma,

    What does the headline mean with “counterattack”? Iran wouldn’t have attacked if Israel didn’t bomb their consulate in Syria. Why is Israel painted as the victim here?

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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  • Karyoplasma,

    “continued aggression” would fit better.

    sugarfree,
    @sugarfree@lemmy.world avatar

    It should be a crime to still be using that phrase, but in this case it doesn’t even make sense. What “stupid prizes” did Israel win? The recent strike in Syria killed a high ranking IRGC general and Iran’s retaliatory efforts were mostly intercepted, with the only Israeli casualty as of now is an injured 10 year old girl.

    kent_eh,

    What “stupid prizes” did Israel win?

    All their neighbors trying to kill them?

    sandman, (edited )

    So, US won’t help Israel unless Israel could make use of it.

    Thanks Biden! You’re so much better than trump and not just a puppet to placate the masses.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Would you rather have had him tell Israel the U.S. would assist in an attack on Iran?

    Because I guarantee you that Trump would have and I doubt that’s actually what you want.

    Ensign_Crab,

    Would you rather have had him tell Israel the U.S. would assist in an attack on Iran?

    I’d rather have confidence that he won’t assist anyway.

    psycho_driver,

    They have to wait for one of their talking heads to tell them what they want.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I just love the idea of someone both being angry at Biden for not attacking Iran while also criticizing Trump, who would have been asking the joint chiefs when he can launch the first nuke by now.

    sandman,

    Is that why trump pulled out of the nuclear deal with Iran?

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    This is why Trump pulled out of the nuclear deal with Iran in his own words:

    We must never allow a regime that chants “Death to America” or “Death to Israel” to obtain a nuclear weapon. That’s all we can say. (Applause.)

    And it’s for this reason that I withdrew the United States from that disastrous Iran nuclear deal and implemented those sanctions, which are so biting and so tough.

    …archives.gov/…/remarks-president-trump-israeli-a…

    And if you think Trump is so pro-Iran and anti-Israel, you haven’t been paying much attention to his actual words.

    Literally last night:

    “ISRAEL IS UNDER ATTACK! This should never have been allowed to happen – This would NEVER have happened if I were President!” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

    “AMERICA SUPPORTS ISRAEL!”

    aljazeera.com/…/israels-war-on-gaza-live-5-dead-d…

    Trump wanted to nuke a hurricane, so nuking Iran wouldn’t have even been a question to him.

    sandman,

    So I guess he isn’t really Putin’s puppet after all?

    I thought Putin was in bed with Iran.

    P.S. washingtonpost.com/…/iran-nuclear-bomb-iaea-fordo…

    Six years after the Trump administration withdrew from the Iran nuclear accord, Tehran is rapidly accumulating enriched uranium, some of it very close to weapons grade. Experts fear that a bomb could be a short dash away.

    🤓

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  • sandman,

    Cognitive dissonance.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    So… Trump pulling out of the accord got Iran back on course to developing a nuke, which made them more powerful, which is getting Putin what he wants, which means Trump is not doing what Putin wants?

    Interesting reasoning.

    sandman,

    You must not be aware of “cognitive dissonance.”

    Trump is either Putin’s puppet or he’s worse for Iran than Biden.

    You can’t have both because Putin supports Iran.

    Sorry this had to be spelled out for you, but this is my last reply on the matter.

    You may have the last word.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Believe it or not, he can both do what Putin wants sometimes and then not do what Putin wants other times. That’s the problem with using a crazy person as an end to your means.

    Incidentally, your praise of Trump is interesting considering you said this a short time ago-

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/51c2b101-7fce-4fdd-b777-58ab4bb2238f.png

    muse,
    muse avatar

    This was by far the dumbest comment chain I have ever read to the end. I know you thought you sounded smug and smart, but jesus was it cringe.

    sandman,

    Cool.

    sandman,

    Yeah.

    That’s a normal reaction when being faced with your cognitive dissonance.

    MrMcGasion,

    I’m not saying he wouldn’t be pro-Israel, but considering how much his words say one thing on the campaign trail, and his actions are generally just whatever he thinks will benefit him the most in the moment, it wouldn’t surprise me if Iran could sway him into looking the other way.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s another issue. That Trump is incredibly easy to manipulate is a whole other ballgame. This guy seems to think that Trump is some sort of pacifist.

    sandman,

    Yeah, actually.

    At least then he’d be being honest.

    I still wouldn’t vote for him, but it would be preferable to lies.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    So… he’s lying about not attacking Iran? How do you know this?

    sandman,

    I wasn’t born yesterday.

    Do you think the US won’t attack Iran if it legitimately threatened Israel?

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I can’t predict the future like you, sorry. But I’d love to borrow your crystal ball and buy some lottery tickets if you wouldn’t mind.

    sandman,

    That’s okay.

    You were just born yesterday :)

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    You do know this statement was about what is happening right now and not about what might happen if Iran carried out some hypothetical future attack, right?

    sandman,

    Why don’t you say what you want to say instead of asking roundabout questions?

    Lol.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I did say what I wanted to say.

    But apparently not what you want me to say.

    sandman,

    Ahh, so you’re just afraid to stick your neck out and own your stance.

    I got it.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    What is my own stance according to you?

    sandman,

    You tell us.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I can’t tell you what my stance is until you let me know what my stance is supposed to be about. Biden? Trump? Israel? Iran? Homelessness? Universal healthcare? Disney Star Wars movies? What?

    You’re making absolutely no sense whatsoever. You clearly expect me to tell you something, but I honestly have no idea what.

    sandman,

    Alright, it’s clear you’re just looking to argue so I’m going to let you have the last word.

    Goodbye.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Asking you to tell me whatever the hell it is you’re talking about is arguing with you?

    There is something very off with you.

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