Columbia Begins to Suspend Student Protesters

After a day of protest and confusion on its Manhattan campus, Columbia University announced Monday evening that it had begun to suspend students who had not left a pro-Palestinian encampment by a 2 p.m. deadline.

The measure reflected the difficult balance Columbia administrators are seeking to strike as they try to avoid bringing the Police Department back to arrest those in the encampment, but also commit to the stance that the protest must end.

Students in the encampment, along with hundreds of supporters, had spent a tense afternoon rallying around the site in a show of force meant to deter the removal of its tents. But by 4 p.m., with no sign of police action, most of the protesters had begun to disperse, leaving only what appeared to be several dozen students and about 80 tents inside the encampment.

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Chickenstalker,

Such a protest is unthinkable merely 5 years ago. Both the Left and the Right hates Israel. The latter only pretends to like Israel because they think it will accelerate The Rapture. As if you can force God to do something. Blasphemy.

DancingBear,

It’s ok to hate a fascist apartheid government.

ettyblatant,
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We will be remembered for being on the right side of history, just wait and see!

-Columbia University

quenpwn,
quenpwn avatar

It's a scam these days

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

If an educational institution won’t abid by the First Amendment it means they’re more interested in pumping out cogs for the machines of capitalism than they are teaching students critical thinking skills.

Fuck Columbia and every other school that follows this path.

DoomBot5,

Go read up about what the first amendment actually is and how it applies to private entities (hint: it doesn’t).

Uranium3006,
Uranium3006 avatar

Then why are the cops there? Are they private security 100% funded with private money?

DoomBot5,

When the cops show up at your home are they your own funded private security? The university called them in due to trespassing protestors.

Uranium3006,
Uranium3006 avatar

If my tax money's paying to beat up protesters it's 100% a 1st amendment issue

DoomBot5,

Wrong, try again.

Tryptaminev,

There is a difference from having to uphold a constitutional right by law or by principle of valuing the right.

Free speech is essential for universities as it creates the space in which scientific discourse and development can strife. This is also why autocratic governments always crack down on universities and then within a few years the quality of research and teaching goes down the drain.

By cracking down on students that were voicing their opinion Columbia declares that it does not want to be an university in that spirit anymore. It might not be a legal problem. But it is a complete moral failure.

Jarix,

“an university” this is worse than nails on a chalkboard or the word “moist”

SkyezOpen,

Ooniversity

DoomBot5,

W safety of some students cannot be comprised by granting other students their freedom.

Tryptaminev,

On all the Universities were police was brought it, it escalated the situation. We saw evidence of a pro-Israel protestor committing to antisemitic hate speech in order to get the police to violently crackdown on the peaceful anti-genocide protest.

Meanwhile Jewish students and members of faculty from most campuses report that there was not threat towards them by the anti-genocide demonstrations

DoomBot5,

Bad timing on your end. The Colombia protestors just raided one of the halls and barricaded themselves in.

Tents on a lawn is one thing, even if they did nothing to silence the calls for hate among their ranks. Breaking (in the literal sense) into a building and causing damage is a whole level of escalation from the protestors. At what point do they shift into a violent riot?

DancingBear,

Probably around the time when the pro Israeli groups start burning stuff and claim to be part of the protests

DoomBot5,

You got a source on that?

DancingBear,

Only the daily news

Tryptaminev,

So after police came in and violated people things escalated. You are confirming what i said.

DoomBot5,

Nah, you have it backwards. The protestors broke into a building, so police was sent to get them out. It would be the same outcome as if you decided to break into a building and lock yourself in.

Tryptaminev,

The police raided the protest camp before. Stop playing the zionist game of “before the moment i say, nothing relevant happened!”

DoomBot5,

The zionist game? That’s been the main playbook of all the Hamas supporters. “What do you mean we fired thousands of rockets aim at civilians before the IDF came in here? They’re just trying to oppress our rights to self expression”

SkyezOpen,

Was that the university that private the YouTube video saying protests were allowed on campus or was that another one?

Either way, universities love to pretend they’re bastions of activism until they actually have to be about it.

FlyingSquid,
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You can tell how much universities today care about their student body.

I wonder what would happen if students stopped registering for classes next fall?

fartington,

I wonder what would happen if students stopped registering for classes next fall?

We will pass a bill to bail out the schools.

HurlingDurling,
@HurlingDurling@lemmy.world avatar

Probabbly not, as the government want stupid people that are just competent enough to do our jobs

disguy_ovahea,

*Republicans want stupid people. Democrats are reimbursing tuition.

bobs_monkey,

But the ruling class also need some educated kids to manage the proles, preferably those that come from the right stock, aka kids who’s parents can afford to pay a quarter mil to send them specific schools

TransplantedSconie,

Knowing the Small Government™ Republicans , they will just write a bill that forces people to sign up.

FuglyDuck,
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they haven’t already?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They’d be in a quandary with a school like Columbia. Because remember, it’s also an evil liberal indoctrination center.

AnarchistArtificer,

Universities under neoliberalism remind me of the adage about online stuff: “if you’re not paying for a service, you’re the product, not the customer”. Except of course, at university, we do pay — quite a lot, in some countries. Even being customers is bad in this context though, because the over-businessification of universities is a huge problem, in my view. <Shakes fist at Thatcher and Reagan>

The primary product of universities nowadays is metrics, which is why the ratio of bureaucrats to teaching staff has shifted so much over the last couple decades.

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