I mean. The guy who “broke” the story of IP “theft” in pal world admitted he made it up. Basically scaled models etc to make them look similar on purpose.
Per copyright law in the United States, the designs must be 15% different to create one’s own artistic copyright. They’re several that are close, but 15% isn’t that much. Obviously Nintendo isn’t a US company, but it’ll be interesting to set how this goes
Both Nintendo and Pocketpair are Japanese companies and their copyright laws are MUCH more harsh. In fact Japan even lacks concepts of “Fair use”
Add to that the fact that public opinion also matters intensely in Japanese courts (think juries) and that Pokémon is considered a national treasure and well… Things are stacked against Pocketpair
At this point it would be better for nintendo to buy palworld from the delveloper and make pokemon multiversal with palworld existing in an alternate universe.
That way they could cash in on the massive success, separate it from their actual pokemon IP all whilst appeasing fans of palworld by keeping the game alive.
From what ive read, doki doki panic was a seperate game and was reskinned to become what the western world got as super mario bros 2. Japan had a different super mario bros 2 game that was built using the original game engine.
One key difference was that in the western version mario picked up and threw enemies but in the japan game mario jumped on enemiea like in the original.
The Japanese Mario 2 was released outside of Japan on the Super Nintendo in the Super Mario All-Stars game. It’s known as “Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels” on that cartridge.
Palworld didn’t plagiarize them. This is what the kids call a nothingburger.
Obviously there are loads of similar designs, but in a way that indicates illegal asset stealing? That’s a different question, and so-called “lazy design” aping on other creations doesn’t qualify as actual theft unless it can be explicitly proven.
More grimly, it is a big corporation trying to squash an upstart competitor and suppress art. If they succeed then it is truly dystopian and a sign that we need more legal protections against overzealous copyright litigators.
You seem to think they would put any value in appeasing fans of Palworld. They’re not even interested in appeasing their own fans. If they could publicly behead Palworld for all it’s fans to see they’d do it just to send a message.
Absorb the business or kill it. Either way, nintendo won’t lose sales to palworld.
Its the best move. Fighting it in court is just going to make the pokemon company look bad and if the news goes viral it will lose them money eventually as people move on from pokemon. Its almost 30 years old now. Nothing lasts forever.
Actually, pokemon is owned by nintendo, Game Freak, and Creatures. It’s a joint ownership. Look it up.
Palworld didn’t steal their IP. They very closely mimicked the IP and potentially with just enough legal distinction to claim its not infringement.
Your analogy would be much more relevant if it was i own a bike company and another company started selling bikes that were extremely similar to my design which disrupted my sales.
In which casez yes i absolutely would buy out the other bike company before i lost too much business and either close it down or absorb it into my own business. This is not a terrible idea its a fairly common business practice.
GameFreak sucks big time, one of the worst first party devs Nintendo has in their roster, but Palworld is such a bland, uninspired and generic attempt at copying Pokemon that I still can’t fathom how it became so popular.
Because people have been asking and craving for an actually good and fun new Pokémon game for yeaaars now, and Palworld delivered just that. It gives the people what they want.
People think it cool to hate on things that are popular, but this one makes perfect sense. It’s popular because it does what Gamefreak has been refusing to do for decades now.
Dude, seriously. The contrarians are out on full display with this game. You see the same poorly thought out points regurgitated in every thread.
The monsters look like Pokemon and you capture them in balls. That’s the extent of the similarities.
But what you can do after that is fun and unique. I’ve always wanted to play a game where I could live with Pokemon. Having a Vulpix help me cook my food and a Piplup help me water my crops is awesome.
And the counter argument against contrarians is that it’s not an issue that the monsters are uninspired copies. I mean it’s not like they are the leitmotiv of the game… I guess GameFreak managed to set the bar very low.
I’m reallu happy that people are enjoying the game, especially with GF underdelivering for so long, but to me, the game looks like an asset flip with heavy… inspiration in monster design.
You can’t really argue that it is a pokemon game tho. The gameloop is a complete different one. The only thing they have in common are uninspired monster designs. And maybe the that you catch them with a ball.
Persona games have more in common with pokemon games than palworld does.
The statement sounds like PR speak for, please stop telling us about palworld, we’ve heard already.
I’m sure they have been inundated by panicked investors contacting them after reading the words, “pokemon with guns” in the news. The statement should reassure them that the company takes defending their IP seriously.
The game’s been out long enough for them to write a cease and desist if they wanted to get litigious.
Pretty much yeah. Mostly just “Yes, we know.” If they had any real chance of killing it off, they’d have done so before the game even launched. They’ll make a big show of looking into it, then grumpily admit there wasn’t technically any wrongdoing and, while they don’t support Palworld, they can’t actually stop it.
Yeah Nintendo tends to move pretty quick on these things. From what I’ve seen there’s not an obvious objection that wouldn’t also include things like Digimon.
Someone with knowledge actually analysed a few models and ended up making this statement too. With Japans stricter copyright laws this might become a problem for Pocketpair
Regardless, considering the Companies history with Craftopia and a few other games, we shouldn’t get our hopes up anyways. This company has a habit of plagiarising relatively popular games (BOTW, Hollow Knight) then never delivering a fully fleshed out product.
Did they say how they analyzed the models? Because looking at the silhouette and other similarities isn’t enough to prove plagiarism when it comes to 3d models.
What you have to do is open up both the original and the suspected copy models and select a couple of similar vertices (the points that give the model geometry) and compare the position down to the decimal place. If they are even a little off, then it isn’t a copy.
The “analysis” here was a guy assuming a video he watched was truthful. Spoiler, it wasn’t. The original video comparing assets was confirmed to have faked its analysis.
I can see why people who were into Ark, Valheim, Fortnite, Minecraft; however, it’s just like any other survival builder game. It just has Pokemon in it. I don’t see the hype.
I knew nothing about Palworld besides the tag line ‘It’s Pokémon with guns’ and saw it was included with gamepass. I installed it and to my absolute horror in the first 5 minutes of the game it had me craft a stone pickaxe. Palworld is Ark with cuter dinosaurs, I don’t get the Pokémon comparison beyond you use balls to hold the monsters.
its ridiculous the number of fucking nintendo stans that are crying for nintendo to do something about Palworld.
Nintendo is the most litigeous company in the world (They fucking DCMA’d themselves for fucks sake) , If Palworld violated anything and Nintendo had actual opportunity to sue for anything… They’d have done so long ago.
they had a complete meltdown when some people got tears of the kingdom early via shipping mishaps, so went on a massive rampage of DMCA notices to take down everything mentioning it. Youtube Videos, News Articles (that contained nothing but nintendo released official screen shots/images), and their own twitter account advertising the fucking game…
Incidentally, I’ve only really found a YT video and this KYM page talking about how Nintendo DMCA’d themselves. That should’ve been the headline of any gaming outlet - knowyourmeme.com/…/nintendo-accidentally-copyrigh…
From what i’ve seen of the landscapes while playing, it looks beautiful. For example, was an area that reminded me of Yosemite National Park, very enchanting.
Unreal engine is the ugliest of game engines right behind unity. The best looking game to exist is Elden Ring, I will not elaborate further, if you know you know
Meh, played scarlet on switch. It was enjoyable, not one of my top games but I can see the appeal to the fans. I just played through the main story line and then called it. Although hundreds of hours can be spent if someone wants to do everything. All in all, I don’t think it’s a terrible game.
Also I take the switch for what it is, a seven year old handheld. It’s not going to compete with a PC, Xbox or PS. As I’ve grown older I don’t care much for graphics but rather game play. And damn straight do I want sit on my couch in front of the TV with some sport in the background. I get it, it’s not for everyone but it’s what I like at this point in my life.
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