nerdschleife,

Wouldn’t recommend Oneplus anymore.

At the high end, Samsung has been pretty solid with their S lineup. The FE models are a good compromise as well. Pixels are a hit or miss, I’d recommend waiting for issues to surface before deciding on the 8/8 pro.

On the more budget - midrange side of things, Motorola has been doing a fairly solid job. They do have a lot of models, so some youtube videos should give you a fair idea on what’s right for you.

HerbalGamer,

Motorola’s Moto G 5G Plus (worst name ever) is a surprisingly nice phone to use in my experience.

berg,

Why wouldn’t you recommend OnePlus though? I have a 9 pro which I enjoy. I really don’t miss the Samsung’s bloatware.

Resistentialism,

Honest question. Where is all this bloat stuff coming from for Samsung?

Like, I genuinely haven’t noticed any software that I didn’t want installed. Sure, there are a few pieces that I’ve kept but don’t use, but nearly all of it can be uninstalled unless it’s stuff that’s actually needed.

berg,

Experience, to be fair though I last owned one 3+ years ago and that one was 3 ish years old.

Resistentialism,

I didn’t manage it in an argumentative way. Sorry. I’ve seen quite a few comments about that. But I haven’t noticed it, so I’m trying to see if it’s like a provider issue or a country thing. Or just whatever.

berg, (edited )

Ahh, I only meant to say that I might be living in the past. I thought the bloatware came from Samsung since what I heard on the street matched my experience. Maybe it’s time to bury that hatchet though.

To be fair it wasn’t a big issue. It was just like five apps that I were stuck with. But back in the days with less memory overall it really grinded my gears. These days I’m not sure I’d even notice.

Resistentialism,

Ohhh. I understand. Thinking about it, i can see how some apps could be considered blaotware. Like Facebook, which I think is auto installed? Could be wrong there. And a few others, but they’re like actual things for it. I just don’t use them.

I’m gonna be honest, I fully thought you meant like a lot of absolutely useless apps. So, I’m sorry about that.

berg,

Yeah, maybe a bit of hyperbole on my part as well. Have a good Saturday evening!

Resistentialism,

You too mate!

nerdschleife,

Severe inconsistent quality issues in both software and hardware, treating their customers as beta testers, random motherboards dying, etc.

They are still riding the ‘flagship killer’ wave, but they are just as overpriced as Samsung, while offering unfinished products.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Nailed it

Klystron,

I’ve bought Samsung for the past 5 years now and have never had an issue with bloat if you buy from Samsung. If you’re buying it from a carrier then yeah there’s probably a ton of crap preloaded. Imo Samsung just offers too much of a complete package to pass up. Pixel is good but hardware leaves some to be desired. The cute software quirks just don’t make it up for me.

Maven,
@Maven@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Imo Samsung just offers too much of a complete package to pass up.

That’s basically the exact reason I refuse to buy a Samsung, haha. They’re positioning themselves to be the Apple of Androids, offering exclusives to bring people into their ecosystem and making it hard to leave. Down to petty things like swapping the back/menu keys so just using a different brand of phone feels uncomfortable.

pycorax,

Samsung has let you swap the back and menu keys for years.

Maven,
@Maven@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

But they default to the opposite of standard Android, for the explicit purpose of making other phones feel unfamiliar to the majority of their userbase that doesn’t switch them.

Muhr,

I bought the Xiaomi 13t and I am satisfied so far. Not a huge Xiaomi fan but this is my second one. Also people dislike the MIUI but you can change it back to the usual android interface… The only thing I don’t really like is the reversed bottom menu buttons. Haven’t figured out if you can change it

Bought it for 620€ with a tablet included. Definitely not worth it if you only want the phone, but I also wanted a new tablet so this was a good choice.

I really wanted the Google pixel, but 128GB was just not enough for me and it was also more expensive for only a phone

awaixjvd,
@awaixjvd@lemmy.world avatar

I wondered for a few seconds before replying that you couldn’t find that much simple thing.

Go to settings, i think in display section or better search in settings for mirrored bottom buttons. I think its in home settings.

Muhr,

Omg thank you 👍

RogueBanana,

Its a bit pointless to ask for android suggestions without any specifications. There are way too many good ones to count but can be very few depending on your needs and budget.

Pyr_Pressure,

If you don’t mind the Chinese government having access to your data I highly recommend OnePlus phones. High quality and loaded with features for much lower cost than Samsung and iPhones. Also not loaded with bloatware. My first phone lasted 4 years (more if I just didn’t feel like upgrading at the time, there was nothing wrong with it). My second phone is still going strong 2 years later so far. Probably will upgrade in another 2 years again.

Edit: literally just read the text and saw you had a OnePlus 7. Oops. My current phone is the 9 pro, no complaints.

dingleberry,

In a way, it’s better if a foreign government has your data and not your own.

Pyr_Pressure,

Yeah I don’t ever plan on visiting China or pursuing a career in politics so I don’t see it as much of an issue. They can blackmail me all they want with my browsing history but I can’t afford to give them anything worthwhile.

electric_nan,

If you like your phone, and want continued support… flash LineageOS. You can keep all your google stuff if you want to with it. OnePlus is one of the easier phones to do this with.

RogueBanana,

Or it used to be. Recent models after the merger are not officially supported but I guess unofficial builtds can be found on XDA or telegram groups.

asdfasdfasdf,

Samsung, because they are the only brand still (mostly) not manufacturing in China. Most Samsung phones are made in Vietnam.

Pyr_Pressure,

Isn’t iPhone moving production to Vietnam?

asdfasdfasdf,

They’ve said things about moving to India but AFAIK they haven’t

NimbleSloth,

I’ve been using Motorola phones for about 5 years now. I don’t want to fork out the ridiculous amount of money for the flagship phones, nor do I want to lose my “bring your own phone” plan price. They have an assortment of phones in different budget ranges and I love some of the features they come with, specifically the karate chop flashlight feature. Haven’t been let down yet. I will say I use my phone mainly as a texting/calling and browsing device so I can’t comment on how they do in games, as I never play games.

willworkforicecream,

I miss the chop so much

shapis,
@shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

Bought a used pixel 7 and I’m very happy with it.

ShitOnABrick,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

Depends on your use cases and budget

I see alot of people are recommending the fairphone and I wouldn’t mind getting one myself but they lack support for alot of major features do not have good price to performance whatsoever and have generally lackluster support when it comes to replacement parts ive seen people waiting absolutely ages for just a replacement usb c port on there fp4 just buy whatever will best meet all your usecases within your budget

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

Well, I’d totally get a fairphone if enough people start following my OF

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

A lot of these recommendations are for super privacy focused anti-Google setups or other niche concerns.

If you just want a nice, straightforward phone, that’s going to do normal phone things, and have security updates for a long time…

The pixel 8 is quite compelling.

jrburkh, (edited )

I see OnePlus in the top comments. I was a OnePlus fanboi from day one. From one through ten, I think I only missed one serious - otherwise, I bought some iteration of every series during that span. I honestly couldn’t say exactly why at the moment, so maybe this comment is trash, but after my OnePlus 10 Pro 5G or whatever the specific name was, I swapped over to the Pixel 7 Pro, and refuse to look back at this point. I just upgraded to the 8 Pro and I have zero complaints.

If I had to venture a guess, part of the reason for the switch had to do with the gradual increase in price of the OnePlus flagship phones over time. I think the first one was something like $299, and was a solid phone, especially compared to the Samsung flagship at the time which was probably twice that, at least. At this point, OnePlus is pretty close to equal cost when comparing models with similar features. I like being on top of the newest software features, so with all else being more or less equal, the Pixel phones are where it’s at. Of course, with Samsung cooperating with Google on phones being Android nekkid, maybe Samsung is worth a try?

TL;DR - OnePlus isn’t worth it anymore. Go Pixel, or maybe Samsung. If you’ve got an especially itchy privacy concern, then don’t ask me - sounds like other people got you covered there.

Edit: just looked up the Fairphone, and its sustainability angle is intriguing…

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Fairphone is definitely a good option if you can get your hands on one. They don’t sell the latest model in the states and only recently started selling in the states at all. If I remember right, the main thing though has been that they’ll give you years of software updates and well, Google just kinda blew that out of the water with 8 years of updates for the Pixel 8.

OnePlus I never really looked at… I’m anti-CCP so I’m anti-OnePlus by default. Google announced recently they’re going to start making phones in India, (which, it’ll be a welcome change to manufacturer inside of another democracy instead of a foreign autocracy like China or Vietnam).

TheGreenGolem,

I have a Pixel 7. I love it.

RBWells,

I recently upgraded from a Pixel (the first generation) to a 5, so the first one lasted a long time. I do miss the headphone jack. But in general these phones do everything I need without fuss.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Likewise, a buddy just got the 8 and really likes it. My parents like their 6a and 6. I have a couple of friends that like their 6/7as.

uranibaba,

I’m considering Fair Phone to be my next one. The latest has 5G support.

Bwaz,

What support do you need? Sounds like it does everything you want it to do. I dont know about that one, but for a lot of devices, “updates” are often just loading in new advertising features.

umulu,
@umulu@lemmy.world avatar

What? What about security updates?

TheButtonJustSpins,

I assume security updates.

nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

I recommend getting the ones popular in India for great 3rd party support (: Snapdragon Xiaomis are a safe bet if you’re on a budget

cryptix,

It used to be… Recently xaoimi started to delay publishing kernel source. Thus some new phones are not officially supported by lineage. Or the cuatom rom experiemce is not as good as it used to be .They started going the route of BBK.

nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

what is bbk?

cryptix,

Its the Chinese smartphone manufacturer , OPPO (sub-brand OnePlus), Vivo (sub-brand iQOO), Realme are all part of BBK en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBK_Electronics

Kalladblog,
@Kalladblog@lemmy.world avatar

Fairphone or probably something else along those lines. Having the ability to hot swap broken parts or sinply upgrade is a pretty bug pro.

rbhfd,

Plus the 5 years of warranty and 8 years of updates really makes it a phone to last.

I just switched from OnePlus 7 to FairPhone 5 because the battery on the former just wasn’t holding up anymore. If that becomes a problem with my new phone, I can just switch the battery and keep using it.

Project2501,
@Project2501@lemmy.world avatar

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