Fallout 4

So I figured it’s about time I gave this game a shot.

I’m familiar with the series, but never really loved it, have played all previous titles but most of my time is on F3 and FNV.

I think the reason why I didn’t pick this up earlier was because I didn’t feel like going further into the Fallout universe, it felt like Bethesda were milking the golden cow.

Of course I’m trying it now as I picked it up cheap and the TV series has come along, of which in almost at the end of. It very much feels like the TV show is Fallout 4 on TV, but then I’ve never played F76.

The game is nice, very familiar to what I remember of F3 and FNV, I wonder how open it is with the perks system, or will I have to put levels into gunplay at some point?

I’m trying to stick to the main quest to start with, I’ve helped out the Minutemen, and then made a b-line to Diamond City before setting off to find the private detective so still pretty early on. Dogmeat is a fine companion for the road.

Any tips or suggesting for a good start, and play through?

There is a patch landing at the end of the month, so I haven’t experimented with any mods just yet.

espais,
@espais@programming.dev avatar

Every time I try playing this I get motion sickness, no matter what settings I tweak

Bosht,

That js so weird. You playing on PC or a console? I feel like Im more prone to it on console due to look settings.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Iwonder how open it is with the perks system, or will I have to put levels into gunplay at some point?

It’s fairly open. You can take any perk’s first level so long as you have the necessary SPECIAL for it, and then each additional level of every perk has its own level requirement.

You will probably want some gunplay perks though, just because it’s the only way to increase your damage and as things start scaling up, shit becomes hella bullet spongey (unless you play in Survival mode).

And don’t disable the cinematic dialogue camera; there are two points (one of which is in the main quest; specifically the conversation between Piper and the Mayor the first time you go to Diamond City) that have been bugged from launch and never fixed in the official game or unofficial patch that will prevent you from progressing because you literally get locked into place and the inputs stop responding so all you can do is open the menu and load or quit (which doesn’t fix the problem). Having the dialogue camera on is the only way to not experience this bug.

Zozano,

After the patch drops, download and install the Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch and start a new character.

It doesn’t change anything in terms of gameplay, but fixes a bunch of bugs.

It’s not a good idea to install it mid-game. Also it disables achievements, so you might want the achievement re-enabling mod.

CaptKoala,

You can do a teleporting melee build my guy, the skills REALLY open it up, get creative.

Vaginal_blood_fart,

Ohhhh id love to know more about this. How do I start a build like this???

CaptKoala,

The Blitz perk allows you to teleport short distances to attack with VATS, when you put a second level into the Blitz perk the range is significantly larger.

I have a grognak the barbarian build that I added blitz to, it is fucking hilarious and one shots most things, if you put enough points into AP you can teleport to multiple targets in one go.

Absolutely sickening level of badass. Blitz can be unlocked at level 3 I believe.

Vaginal_blood_fart,

Oh man that’s awesome. Thanks!!!

zygo_histo_morpheus,

I thought fo4 was underwhelming, but I’m exited to play the fallout 4: london mod which is supposed to drop as soon as possible after the patch, depending on how quickly the script extender gets updated to work with the new version.

It’s set before fallout 1 I think and it won’t have a lot of fallout staples like the pip boy, super mutants or the brotherhood of steel which I think will be a nice change since it feels like Bethesda have overused them a lot. A lot of the promotional material looks fantastic and they seem to have a lot of cool ideas and a professional approach to modding.

The new vegas modding community has kind of a bad track record when it comes to large modding projects but I feel optimistic about folon, but it might be good to temper that optimism with a little bit of caution anyway.

Ashtear,

The one thing I wish I knew at the start is that regular armor/clothing bonuses don’t apply when in power armor. Unfortunately, that’s the bulk of what you’ll find from legendary enemies, so it makes loot a lot less fun. Power armor with legendary bonuses is very rare. There are many viable builds without power armor, but they are likely to be challenging for a new player.

Also if anyone knows of a mod that makes recon scopes reliable (I swear I can’t mark anything with just a damn twig in the way), or if they’ve recently patched that, I’d love to hear about it.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Your post seems great, and a good contribution to this community, so please don’t take this comment as rude. I’m trying to be as polite as I can. However, that being said, your title is extremely vague. I would greatly suggest using putting more detail in your title so people looking at it next to other posts on their “front page” (to use a Reddit analogy) has an idea of what it’s about.

Either way, again, great post! (And sorry again if I’m being an asshole. I’m trying not to be. 🙂 )

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Their title is perfect, it’s simply the name of the game and opens up any discussion about it rather than inviting a direct critique or agreement of their viewpoint.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

No, it is not perfect. Not even close. If everybody wrote just the name of the game they wanted to discuss, the list of posts in a community would just be game titles and nothing else. That would make it very difficult for people to easily distinguish what a post is about (and whether it warrants their attention or interest) without having to go into each and every one.

The reason why you don’t see this in action is precisely because it’s unhelpful to other people.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

The body is their opinion, the title should be an open call.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Fine, then, let’s just have every post on this sub be just the title of a game and nothing more! :D

We’ll then see how well that turns out. -_-

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Okay.

steeznson,

This game ruined my interest in Fallout as a series. I’d played everything in the series from the isometric ones onwards but something about this one made me lose interest in the setting. Some kind of Fallout burnout maybe.

I stopped playing when it tried to force me to engage with the crafting mechanics in order to do the Institute level.

I’ve heard the Far Harbour DLC is good I guess so maybe make a beeline for that

BoxOfFeet,

I still haven’t beaten FO4. I lost interest. But I started 3 over again! And it’s still just as good as ever. And it’s been so long since I’ve played it, I’ve forgotten a lot of it. It’s pretty awesome.

JeffreyOrange,

Same, I stopped in the middle of it because I was so bored. Haven’t ever looked at Fallout 76, Fallout 4 killed the franchise for me.

rar,

Had fun playing FO4 back then, but gotta agree it had some major weak points. They didn’t improve from the FO3 and the constructive criticisms. They simply rode the gravy train Obsidian set with New Vegas. FO76 and Starfield’s failure to captivate public’s interest is a reflection of that.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

As a fan of F1/2 who hated 3/NV and its jank, this game got me to enjoy the series again.

I really enjoyed the base building and it felt cool rebuilding some of the wasteland, something I always questioned why it wasn’t more common in other games, it’s been hundreds of years clean the fucking rubble from your bed room and stop sleeping on a hundreds of years old, dirty, stained, radioactive mattress.

exocrinous,

Yeah plus New Vegas has three different shitty options that cannot sustainably rebuild civilisation. Fallout 4 has the minutemen, who are just a bunch of kind hearted communists. The minutemen are the only organised faction that offer a true future to the wasteland.

rar,

If they could let player order Preston Garvey do all the minuteman job and leave the us alone.

yuri,

Your comment made me realize how shoehorned the crafting is. Other modern games had crafting and base building, so just stick it in fallout! Ugh.

I’m the type to spend an extra 10 hours in subnautica collecting all the materials to make a giant and perfect self sufficient base. Fallout 4 saw me turn that first gas station into a multi-floor hotel. It didn’t really add anything to my experience though. I only ever went there to mod weapons, which also would’ve been a much better experience without crafting! Finding mods rather than crafting them would make them special.

Also being forced to find a special table just to affix a scope to a gun is fucken dumb.

exocrinous,

Other modern games had crafting

You mean like Fallout New Vegas?

yuri,

4’s crafting is a far cry from NV’s.

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

honestly the show makes me not want to play fallout. Its alright to watch but the universe as portrayed. meh.

variants,

I have a ton of hours in that game, I enjoyed building bases and most of the game, my favorite dlc is far harbor

Renacles,

Piper’s affinity perk is only useful if you get it early on.

My main advice is to try to get everything you can to level up quickly, the loot pool doesn’t really get interesting until level 20 or so, you’ll find nothing but laser pistols and pipe guns before that.

FermiEstimate, (edited )

Maybe a controversial suggestion, but my advice is to ignore the Minutemen stuff until late in the game. Just don’t even go to the museum until you’ve followed some leads and want something else to do for a bit.

This is definitely not the intended way to play, but I promise the story flows so much better without it. Setting out to find your kidnapped son just to immediately get sidetracked helping some uncharismatic misfits set up mattresses is just an underwhelming start to an otherwise decent game.

Doing all this stuff later on, when you’ve actually demonstrated you’re a badass survivor and the OP gear you get free from the Minutemen quest actually feels earned, just feels much smoother. It’s a great coda that they unf put two minutes into the game for some reason.

SkyezOpen,

A guy I know just started his first playthrough. He thought the minutemen line was the main quest and just kept going to settlement after settlement. He had probably 15 settlements before he even got to diamond city. He was straight up not having a good time, just playing settlement simulator and not the actual game.

FermiEstimate,

Oof, I definitely did that once or twice.

It really does seem like they decided to bring this sequence up to introduce settlement building and power armor early. I get why they did it, but man, I do not think it ultimately has the effect they wanted.

Nemo,

I enjoyed it so much more in Survival mode, but with a “save anytime” mod.

Mousey,

Agreed, I highly recommend survival if you enjoy higher stakes with death. I’ve never used save anytime mod, the sleep to save default worked well for me.

Zozano,

It’s all well and good to get a feel for things, but you know how buggy these games can get.

Once you’ve played survival for a while, you realise how inconvenient sleep to save is.

Sometimes you’re a long way from resting, and you need to turn the game off - save anytime is going to save your bacon

ryathal,

Like Skyrim this one is far more playable in third person, and I really recommend giving that a try.

If you want faster leveling get the luck perk idiot savant, and keep your intelligence low.

Ammo seems far more plentiful than 3 in my experience, at least early on. You eventually get near infinite ammo anyway. One minorly annoying thing is that DLC weapons can drop in the commonwealth, but no one sells ammo for them outside the DLC.

You will eventually want to pick a weapon type and put some points in it. The bonuses are huge. Perhaps more important are the crafting perks to keep up on upgrades to weapons and armor.

There’s a lot if focus on settlement building, but it’s a huge pain and not super rewarding in my experience.

westyvw,

Like Skyrim this one is far more playable in third person

Wait, what? Fallout is much better in first person. How do you aim and shoot in third person?

I really dislike third person games to begin with, but this one just wouldnt work it unless you relied on VATS.

ryathal,

3rd person aim is awesome, you get a cross hair to aim with instead of whatever random sight the gun has, it changes size based on the gun’s stats and your limb damage. Guns don’t block a good chunk of the screen either. Scopes still zoom in to the same view.

westyvw,

Guns don’t block a good chunk of the screen either.

But YOU do! That is why I do not like third person, I do not want to see me. All immersion is lost! \

But I started up my game, moused out to third person, and the gun sight didnt change at all. It is the same cross hairs based on gun accuracy either way.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Modded FO4 on PC is one of the best experiences you can have. Vanilla FO4 is dogshit, lol.

westyvw,

I think that is a bit overboard. I modded the hell out of F04 and it still is a brain dead, choices mean nothing, game. It is kind of interesting wandering around and fighting things, but nothing really ever matters and the story progresses the same.

The second more important thing for this game besides modding, is playing in survival. Anything else is like whats the point.

ryathal,

Mods are 100% necessary.

Shurimal,

Like Skyrim this one is far more playable in third person, and I really recommend giving that a try.

Haven't played FO, but hell, no, Skyrim (and Morrowind, and Oblivion) in 3rd person is janky AF. Bethesda games never were meant to be played in 3rd person—I suspect the option is there simply for vanity cam, screenshots and modding.

ryathal,

Morrowind and oblivion are awful in 3rd person, but Skyrim is really good. I occasionally drop into 1st person for looting tight areas, but 95% of the game is very good in 3rd person mode.

invertedspear,

The need for crafting and settlement building really turned me off of 4. That and the super dense map. This is supposed to be a wasteland but it’s got people and settlements everywhere. The emptiness of 3 and NV made them feel like an apocalypse, I’m not sure what 4 feels like, but it’s really not the same.

bionicjoey, (edited )

Something you need to unlearn if your Fallout experience is primarily from FNV is that the quest design in FO4 is far more linear. The designers of FNV did a lot of work to ensure that you could complete basically any quest in lots of different ways, including talking, crafting, thinking, or sneaking to avoid combat. The design of FO4 follows the FO3 school of thought, which is more “this is a game about fighting stuff, you’re going to have to fight stuff”

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